Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:05:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:05:14 -0500 Received: from ns.suse.de ([213.95.15.193]:35849 "EHLO Cantor.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:05:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:15:15 +0100 From: Dave Jones To: Chris Wedgwood Cc: Pavel Machek , kernel list , linux@brodo.de Subject: Re: Select voltage manually in cpufreq Message-ID: <20030219111515.B15407@suse.de> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Chris Wedgwood , Pavel Machek , kernel list , linux@brodo.de References: <20030218214220.GA1058@elf.ucw.cz> <20030218214726.GB15007@f00f.org> <20030218215819.GC21974@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20030218220858.GA15273@f00f.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030218220858.GA15273@f00f.org>; from cw@f00f.org on Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 02:08:58PM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1657 Lines: 36 On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 02:08:58PM -0800, Chris Wedgwood wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:58:19PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Well, and does slow-low-power mean 300MHz, 1.4V as bios said, or > > 300MHz, 1.2V which is probably also safe? > > I have no idea... that's the point... the user almost never knows what > *exact* magic values are required, they just want fast-on-power or > slow-on-battery sort of thing. One possibility is a database of known-safe overrides for specific models of laptops. We *could* even do DMI based overrides which make cpufreq point at an in-module PST instead of BIOS. That in-module PST would be machine-independant, and would need to be derived by someone like Pavel using a patch pretty much like the one he proposed to do trial and error testing. The only thing I'm concerned about with that approach is the risk of possible damage. longhaul will allow you to overclock/overpower the cpu. I've never actually damaged a C3 in this way, just locked it up needing a power-cycle. powernow-k7 clips in hardware to the maximum the cpu is capable of. Specifying too low a voltage also seems to universally lock up the box. Those are the implementations I know about, so unless any of the other implementations allow dangerous operations, we should be 'mostly harmless' right now. Dave -- | Dave Jones. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk | SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/