Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:59:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:59:23 -0500 Received: from [207.1.200.39] ([207.1.200.39]:55300 "EHLO ded-tscs.innovsoftd.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:59:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:00:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Gregory S. Youngblood" Reply-To: To: "Michael H. Warfield" cc: Ben Ford , linux kernel Subject: Re: Linux stifles innovation... In-Reply-To: <20010218114230.B11903@alcove.wittsend.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 09:15:08PM -0800, Ben Ford wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand, they make excellent mice. The mouse wheel and > > > the new optical mice are truly innovative and Microsoft should be > > > commended for them. > > > > > The wheel was a nifty idea, but I've seen workstations 15 years old with > > optical mice. It wasn't MS's idea. > > I think their "innovation" was not requiring the optical cross > grid mouse pad common on Sun workstations over the years. The Microsoft > optical mouse uses variations in the surface characteristics of whatever > it's on to perform it's function. The old optical mice just used two > different colors of LED's (red and IR) and a special pad. This would > actually have to scan and track the surface below it. Don't know that > I've seen anyone do that before. I remember being at a computer show in Minneapolis where a small company was showing off this mouse that worked on a variety of surfaces without a ball. I'm trying to remember if the mouse was optical or used yet another method of functioning -- I think it was optical, though I could be mistaken. This was in 1992/1993. The point is, I really do not believe Microsoft made the "leap" to provide opitcal mice without the need of the mousepad grid. Their "innovation" was in marketing it on a wide scale though. I could be mistaken - if so then let's give them their credit - but I have a hard time believing it was their idea without some serious proof. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/