Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:26:39 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:26:39 -0500 Received: from pc2-cwma1-4-cust86.swan.cable.ntl.com ([213.105.254.86]:19077 "EHLO irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:26:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Proposal for a new watchdog interface using sysfs From: Alan Cox To: Jakob Oestergaard Cc: Rusty Lynch , Pavel Machek , lkml , Patrick Mochel , Dave Jones , Daniel Pittman In-Reply-To: <20030220211941.GD13216@unthought.net> References: <1045106216.1089.16.camel@vmhack> <1045160506.1721.22.camel@vmhack> <20030213230408.GA121@elf.ucw.cz> <1045260726.1854.7.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030214213542.GH23589@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <1045264651.13488.40.camel@vmhack> <1045274042.2961.4.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <1045632256.2974.76.camel@vmhack> <20030220211941.GD13216@unthought.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1045780613.3790.52.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 (1.2.1-4) Date: 20 Feb 2003 22:36:54 +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1137 Lines: 25 On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 21:19, Jakob Oestergaard wrote: > I know that there is ioctl support in the existing drivers - but I have > not yet seen a driver which needed it. "needed" in the sense that > equivalent functionality could not have been created using dev files > alone. > > Also, the amount of userspace which will break because of missing ioctl > functionality will be absolutely *minimal*. There's not a lot of > watchdog software out there, and porting whatever software uses ioctls > to use sane interfaces instead, should be doable. I don't think anyone > would get terribly upset if this change was made as a 2.4->2.6 > transition thing. There is a lot of watchdog using stuff, some quite proprietary and embedded into big apps. Even then you have to solve the persistence issue. Losing the old api is a 2.8/3.0 thing perhaps, even then its a big break by Linux standards - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/