Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:06:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:06:44 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:14487 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:06:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:16:18 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Hanna Linder Cc: lse-tech@lists.sf.et, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <20030222001618.GA19700@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Hanna Linder , lse-tech@lists.sf.et, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <96700000.1045871294@w-hlinder> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <96700000.1045871294@w-hlinder> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1311 Lines: 26 > Ben said none of the distros are supporting these large > systems right now. Martin said UL is already starting to support > them. Ben is right. I think IBM and the other big iron companies would be far better served looking at what they have done with running multiple instances of Linux on one big machine, like the 390 work. Figure out how to use that model to scale up. There is simply not a big enough market to justify shoveling lots of scaling stuff in for huge machines that only a handful of people can afford. That's the same path which has sunk all the workstation companies, they all have bloated OS's and Linux runs circles around them. In terms of the money and in terms of installed seats, the small Linux machines out number the 4 or more CPU SMP machines easily 10,000:1. And with the embedded market being one of the few real money makers for Linux, there will be huge pushback from those companies against changes which increase memory footprint. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/