Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:38:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:38:31 -0500 Received: from franka.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.44]:36328 "EHLO franka.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:38:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:47:53 -0800 From: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Larry McVoy , "David S. Miller" cc: lse-tech@lists.sf.et, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <26210000.1045928873@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: <20030222143440.GA10546@work.bitmover.com> References: <96700000.1045871294@w-hlinder> <20030222001618.GA19700@work.bitmover.com> <306820000.1045874653@flay> <20030222024721.GA1489@work.bitmover.com> <14450000.1045888349@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222050514.GA3148@work.bitmover.com> <1045903113.26056.6.camel@rth.ninka.net> <20030222143440.GA10546@work.bitmover.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1464 Lines: 30 >> > Let's see, Dell has a $66B market cap, revenues of $8B/quarter and >> > $500M/quarter in profit. >> >> While I understand these numbers are on the mark, there is a tertiary >> issue to realize. >> >> Dell makes money on many things other than thin-margin PCs. And lo' >> and behold one of those things is selling the larger Intel based >> servers and support contracts to go along with that. > > I did some digging trying to find that ratio before I posted last night > and couldn't. You obviously think that the servers are a significant > part of their business. I'd be surprised at that, but that's cool, > what are the numbers? PC's, monitors, disks, laptops, anything with less > than 4 cpus is in the little bucket, so how much revenue does Dell generate > on the 4 CPU and larger servers? It's not a question of revenue, it's one of profit. Very few people buy desktops for use with Linux, compared to those that buy them for Windows. The profit on each PC is small, thus I still think a substantial proportion of the profit made by hardware vendors by Linux is on servers rather than desktop PCs. The numbers will be smaller for high end machines, but the profit margins are much higher. M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/