Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:24:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:24:32 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:21158 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:24:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:33:18 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: "Martin J. Bligh" Cc: Larry McVoy , "David S. Miller" , lse-tech@lists.sf.et, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <20030222163318.GB11953@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , "Martin J. Bligh" , Larry McVoy , "David S. Miller" , lse-tech@lists.sf.et, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030222001618.GA19700@work.bitmover.com> <306820000.1045874653@flay> <20030222024721.GA1489@work.bitmover.com> <14450000.1045888349@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222050514.GA3148@work.bitmover.com> <1045903113.26056.6.camel@rth.ninka.net> <20030222143440.GA10546@work.bitmover.com> <26210000.1045928873@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222161356.GA11953@work.bitmover.com> <27920000.1045931373@[10.10.2.4]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <27920000.1045931373@[10.10.2.4]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1577 Lines: 29 On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 08:29:34AM -0800, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > > people sell lots of server. I spent a few minutes in google: world wide > > server sales are $40B at the moment. The overwhelming majority of that > > revenue is small servers. Let's say that Dell has 20% of that market, > > that's $2B/quarter. Now let's chop off the 1-2 CPU systems. I'll bet > > you long long odds that that is 90% of their revenue in the server space. > > Supposing that's right, that's $200M/quarter in big iron sales. Out of > > $8000M/quarter. > > > > I'd love to see data which is different than this but you'll have a tough > > time finding it. More and more companies are looking at the cost of > > big iron and deciding it doesn't make sense to spend $20K/CPU when they > > could be spending $1K/CPU. Look at Google, try selling them some big > > iron. Look at Wall Street - abandoning big iron as fast as they can. > > But we're talking about linux ... and we're talking about profit, not > revenue. I'd guess that 99% of their desktop sales are for Windows. > And I'd guess they make 100 times as much profit on a big server as they > do on a desktop PC. You are thinking in today's terms. Find the asymptote and project out. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/