Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 17:34:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 17:34:15 -0500 Received: from dhcp93-dsl-usw3.w-link.net ([206.129.84.93]:10693 "EHLO grok.yi.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 17:34:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3E57FD42.7030606@candelatech.com> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:44:18 -0800 From: Ben Greear Organization: Candela Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hahn CC: "Martin J. Bligh" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1495 Lines: 35 Mark Hahn wrote: >>OK, so now you've slid from talking about PCs to 2-way to 4-way ... >>perhaps because your original arguement was fatally flawed. > > > oh, come on. the issue is whether memory is fast and flat. > most "scalability" efforts are mainly trying to code around the fact > that any ccNUMA (and most 4-ways) is going to be slow/bumpy. > it is reasonable to worry that optimizations for imbalanced machines > will hurt "normal" ones. is it worth hurting uni by 5% to give > a 50% speedup to IBM's 32-way? I think not, simply because > low-end machines are more important to Linux. > > the best way to kill Linux is to turn it into an OS best suited > for $6+-digit machines. Linux has a key feature that most other OS's lack: It can (easily, and by all) be recompiled for a particular architecture. So, there is no particular reason why optimizing for a high-end system has to kill performance on uni-processor machines. For instance, don't locks simply get compiled away to nothing on uni-processor machines? -- Ben Greear President of Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com ScryMUD: http://scry.wanfear.com http://scry.wanfear.com/~greear - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/