Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:47:52 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:47:52 -0500 Received: from havoc.daloft.com ([64.213.145.173]:57539 "EHLO havoc.gtf.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:47:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:57:56 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik To: Larry McVoy , "Martin J. Bligh" , Larry McVoy , Mark Hahn , "David S. Miller" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <20030222235756.GA8699@gtf.org> References: <1510000.1045942974@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222195642.GI1407@work.bitmover.com> <2080000.1045947731@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222231552.GA31268@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030222231552.GA31268@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1213 Lines: 26 On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 03:15:52PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > or rackmount cases. I fail to see how there are better margins on the > same hardware in a rackmount box for $800 when the desktop costs $750. > Those rack mount power supplies and cases are not as cheap as the desktop > ones, so I see no difference in the margins. Oh, it's definitely different hardware. Maybe the 16550-related portion of the ASIC is the same :) but just do an lspci to see huge differences in motherboard chipsets, on-board parts, more complicated BIOS, remote management bells and whistles, etc. Even the low-end rackmounts. But the better margins come simply from the mentality, IMO. Desktops just aren't "as important" to a business compared to servers, so IT shops are willing to spend more money to not only get better hardware, but also the support services that accompany it. Selling servers to enterprise data centers means bigger, more concentrated cash pool. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/