Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:44:50 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:44:50 -0500 Received: from ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com ([166.70.28.69]:5956 "EHLO frodo.biederman.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:44:44 -0500 To: "Martin J. Bligh" Cc: William Lee Irwin III , Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call References: <96700000.1045871294@w-hlinder> <20030222001618.GA19700@work.bitmover.com> <306820000.1045874653@flay> <20030222024721.GA1489@work.bitmover.com> <14450000.1045888349@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222050514.GA3148@work.bitmover.com> <19870000.1045895965@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222083810.GA4170@gtf.org> <20030222221820.GI10401@holomorphy.com> <316510000.1045961436@flay> From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Date: 23 Feb 2003 12:54:43 -0700 In-Reply-To: <316510000.1045961436@flay> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1242 Lines: 23 "Martin J. Bligh" writes: > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 03:38:10AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >> ia32 big iron. sigh. I think that's so unfortunately in a number > >> of ways, but the main reason, of course, is that highmem is evil :) > > One phrase ... "price:performance ratio". That's all it's about. > The only thing that will kill 32-bit big iron is the availability of > cheap 64 bit chips. It's a free-market economy. > > It's ugly to program, but it's cheap, and it works. I guess ugly to program is in the eye of the beholder. The big platforms have always seemed much worse to me. When every box is feels free to change things in arbitrary ways for no good reason. Or where OS and other low-level software must know exactly which motherboard they are running on to work properly. Gratuitous incompatibilities are the ugliest thing I have ever seen. Much less ugly then the warts a real platform accumulates because it is designed to actually be used. Eric - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/