Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:18:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:18:46 -0500 Received: from to-wiznet.redhat.com ([216.129.200.2]:40181 "EHLO touchme.toronto.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:18:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:28:56 -0500 From: Benjamin LaHaise To: David Mosberger Cc: David Lang , Gerrit Huizenga , William Lee Irwin III , Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <20030223182856.A15376@redhat.com> References: <15961.7487.465791.980935@napali.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <15961.7487.465791.980935@napali.hpl.hp.com>; from davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com on Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 11:13:03AM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1144 Lines: 22 On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 11:13:03AM -0800, David Mosberger wrote: > This simply isn't true. Itanium and Itanium 2 have full x86 hardware > built into the chip (for better or worse ;-). The speed isn't as good > as the fastest x86 chips today, but it's faster (~300MHz P6) than the That hardly counts as reasonably performant: the slowest mainstream chips from Intel and AMD are clocked well over 1 GHz. At least x86-64 will improve the performance of the 32 bit databases people have already invested large amounts of money in, and it will do so without the need for a massive outlay of funds for a new 64 bit license. Why accept more than 10x the cost to migrate to ia64 when a new x86-64 will improve the speed of existing applications, and improve scalability with the transparent addition of a 64 bit kernel? -ben -- Don't email: aart@kvack.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/