Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:16:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:16:26 -0500 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:16907 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:16:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:23:01 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Davidsen To: Gerrit Huizenga cc: lse-tech@lists.sf.et, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1782 Lines: 37 On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Gerrit Huizenga wrote: > On 22 Feb 2003 18:20:19 GMT, Alan Cox wrote: > > I think people overestimate the numbner of large boxes badly. Several IDE > > pre-patches didn't work on highmem boxes. It took *ages* for people to > > actually notice there was a problem. The desktop world is still 128-256Mb > > IDE on big boxes? Is that crack I smell burning? A desktop with 4 GB > is a fun toy, but bigger than *I* need, even for development purposes. > But I don't think EMC, Clariion (low end EMC), Shark, etc. have any > IDE products for my 8-proc 16 GB machine... And running pre-patches in > a production environment that might expose this would be a little > silly as well. I don't disagree with most of your point, however there certainly are legitimate uses for big boxes with small (IDE) disk. Those which first come to mind are all computational problems, in which a small dataset is read from disk and then processors beat on the data. More or less common examples are graphics transformations (original and final data compressed), engineering calculations such as finite element analysis, rendering (raytracing) type calculations, and data analysis (things like setiathome or automated medical image analysis). IDE drives are very cost effective, and low cost motherboard RAID is certainly useful for preserving the results of large calculations on small (relatively) datasets. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/