Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:33:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:33:31 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:38404 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:33:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:40:40 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: davidm@hpl.hp.com cc: David Lang , Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call In-Reply-To: <15961.20756.474745.44896@napali.hpl.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 981 Lines: 29 On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, David Mosberger wrote: > > 2 GHz Xeon: 701 SPECint > 1 GHz Itanium 2: 810 SPECint > > That is, Itanium 2 is 15% faster. Ehh, and this is with how much cache? Last I saw, the Itanium 2 machines came with 3MB of integrated L3 caches, and I suspect that whatever 0.13 Itanium numbers you're looking at are with the new 6MB caches. So your "apples to apples" comparison isn't exactly that. The only thing that is meaningful is "performace at the same time of general availability". At which point the P4 beats the Itanium 2 senseless with a 25% higher SpecInt. And last I heard, by the time Itanium 2 is up at 2GHz, the P4 is apparently going to be at 5GHz, comfortably keeping that 25% lead. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/