Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:50:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:50:38 -0500 Received: from franka.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.44]:64225 "EHLO franka.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:50:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:00:45 -0800 From: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Larry McVoy , William Lee Irwin III , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <8520000.1046102445@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: <20030224154725.GB5665@work.bitmover.com> References: <1510000.1045942974@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222195642.GI1407@work.bitmover.com> <2080000.1045947731@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222231552.GA31268@work.bitmover.com> <3610000.1045957443@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224045616.GB4215@work.bitmover.com> <48940000.1046063797@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224065826.GA5665@work.bitmover.com> <20030224075142.GA10396@holomorphy.com> <20030224154725.GB5665@work.bitmover.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1103 Lines: 28 > I never said that I didn't. I'm just taking issue with the choosen path > which has been demonstrated to not work. > > "Let's scale Linux by multi threading" > > "Err, that really sucked for everyone who has tried it in the past, > all the code paths got long and uniprocessor performance suffered" > > "Oh, but we won't do that, that would be bad". > > "Great, how about you measure the changes carefully and really show > that?" > > "We don't need to measure the changes, we know we'll do it right". Most of the threading changes have been things like 1 thread per cpu, which would seem to scale up and down rather well to me ... could you illustrate by pointing to an example of something that's changed in that area which you think is bad? Yes, if Linux started 2000 kernel threads on a UP system, that would obviously be bad. M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/