Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:13:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:13:02 -0500 Received: from to-wiznet.redhat.com ([216.129.200.2]:59379 "EHLO touchme.toronto.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:13:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:23:14 -0500 From: Benjamin LaHaise To: Larry McVoy , William Lee Irwin III , "Martin J. Bligh" , Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <20030224112314.H15376@redhat.com> References: <1510000.1045942974@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222195642.GI1407@work.bitmover.com> <2080000.1045947731@[10.10.2.4]> <20030222231552.GA31268@work.bitmover.com> <3610000.1045957443@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224045616.GB4215@work.bitmover.com> <48940000.1046063797@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224065826.GA5665@work.bitmover.com> <20030224075142.GA10396@holomorphy.com> <20030224154725.GB5665@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030224154725.GB5665@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 07:47:25AM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1428 Lines: 26 On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 07:47:25AM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > If you were looking at the problem assuming that the same code had to > run on uniprocessor and a 1000 way smp, right now, today, and designing > for it, I doubt very much we'd have anything to argue about. A lot of > what I'm saying starts to become obviously true as you increase the > number of CPUs but engineers are always seduced into making it go 2x > farther than it does today. Unfortunately, each of those 2x increases > comes at some cost and they add up. Good point. However, we are in a position to compare test results of older linux kernels against newer, and to recompile code out of the kernel for specific applications. I'm curious if there is a collection of lmbench results of hand configured and compiled kernels vs the vendor module based kernels across 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 and recent 2.5 on the same uniprocessor and dual processor configuration. That would really give us a better idea of how a properly tuned kernel vs what people actually use for support reasons is costing us, and if we're winning or losing. -ben -- Don't email: aart@kvack.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/