Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:16:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:15:56 -0500 Received: from smtp1.cern.ch ([137.138.128.38]:8713 "EHLO smtp1.cern.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:15:43 -0500 To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Werner Almesberger , "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation... In-Reply-To: From: Jes Sorensen Date: 19 Feb 2001 15:15:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: Jeff Garzik's message of "Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:07:02 -0600 (CST)" Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070096 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.96) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Garzik writes: Jeff> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Werner Almesberger wrote: >> Now what's at stake ? Look at the Windows world. Also there, >> companies could release their drivers as Open Source. Quick, how >> many do this ? Almost none. So, given the choice, most companies >> have defaulted to closed source. Consistently complaining when a >> company tries to release only closed source drivers for Linux seems >> to generally have the desired effect of making them change their >> policy. Jeff> FWIW, -every single- Windows driver source code I've seen has Jeff> been bloody awful. Asking them to release that code would Jeff> probably result in embarrassment. Same reasoning why many Jeff> companies won't release hardware specifications... The internal Jeff> docs are bad. Really bad. Trust me, commercial UNIX drivers aren't any better. Jes - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/