Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757528AbbKFQmz (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:42:55 -0500 Received: from mail-yk0-f176.google.com ([209.85.160.176]:34491 "EHLO mail-yk0-f176.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757466AbbKFQmw (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:42:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1446825570-30029-1-git-send-email-ludovic.desroches@atmel.com> References: <1446825570-30029-1-git-send-email-ludovic.desroches@atmel.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:42:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mmc: sdhci: potentially bad behavior when using vmmc supply From: Ulf Hansson To: Ludovic Desroches Cc: Nicolas Ferre , Alexandre Belloni , linux-mmc , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , pierre.samat@atmel.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4159 Lines: 98 On 6 November 2015 at 16:59, Ludovic Desroches wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to have some feedback for these two patches. I have two questions. > > 1. > > To suppress the warnings telling me I have no vmmc and vqmmc supplies, I have > added them and discovered that adding a vmmc supply involve only writing 1 in > the Power Control Register involves enabling the SD Bus Power with a non valid > value for the SD Bus Voltage. If the host controllers strictly follows the > specification, it shall not enable SD Bus Power. So enough if it seems useless > to configure SD Bus Voltage because we have an external regulator, do it. I can't give you a detailed answer about the sdhci HW as I only have limited knowledge. What I can say is that people have been trying to fix all kind of crazy corner cases by adding quirks and callbacks. This seems like yet another one. So, by turning sdhci into a set of library functions you could easier pick and decide to what suites your particular variant. In this case it seems like would have relied on using the external regulators to control voltages, instead of some internal sdhci registers. > > By the way, I am curious to understand what is really the SD Bus Voltage. I > mean talking about bus voltage makes me thinking more about vqmmc than vmmc. > Is it only bad naming or do I miss something? > > From the specification, there is this figure: > > HOST > --------------------------------------------------- > | ------------ 3.3V | VDD > | | Power SW |------------------------------------|---------- > | ------------ | | | > | ---------| | | > | | | | > | -------------- ---------------------- | > | | Ref. Volt. |-----| Regulator/Selector | | > | -------------- ---------------------- | > | 3.3V/1.8V | | > | | | > | |--------------- | > | | | | | | > | | R R _ | > | | | | _ | > | | | | | | > | | | | /// | > | ------- | | | CLK > | | |----)--)------|---------- > | ----------------------- |Multi| | | | CMD > | |Random Logic Circuits|---|Drive|----)---------|---------- > | ----------------------- |I/O | | | DAT > | | |--------------|---------- > | ------- | > --------------------------------------------------- > > In my mind vmmc is the 3.3V signal and vqmmc is the 3.3V/1.8V signal, so why > talking about bus voltage? "IO voltage", "bus voltage", "VQMMC", etc they all mean the same thing to me. It's the voltage level of the signals going to the card. > > > 2. > > Is the regulator-gpio usage the right thing to do for vqmmc? In my case it is > not really driven by a gpio but by a pio from the sdhci device. In the binding, What's a "pio"? What do you mean by the it's driven from the sdhci device? Is it the internal HW logic of the sdhci controller that manages the IO voltage? And this logic can be controlled via certain register bits in the SDHCI controller? > declaring the gpio is an option so I thought using this regulator fits my need. In quite many cases it makes sense to model this though a gpio regulator. For example when you use a level shifter circuit. Those normally have gpio pin routed to control the voltage level output for the signals. For example switching between 1.8V and 2.9V. [...] Kind regards Uffe -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/