Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:14:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:14:33 -0500 Received: from wsip68-15-8-100.sd.sd.cox.net ([68.15.8.100]:20866 "EHLO gnuppy.monkey.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:14:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:24:38 -0800 To: Larry McVoy , yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, William Lee Irwin III , Andrew Morton , lm@bitmover.com, mbligh@aracnet.com, davidsen@tmr.com, greearb@candelatech.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: "Bill Huey (Hui)" Subject: Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call Message-ID: <20030225022438.GC4507@gnuppy.monkey.org> References: <33350000.1046043468@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224045717.GC4215@work.bitmover.com> <20030224074447.GA4664@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030224075430.GN10411@holomorphy.com> <20030224080052.GA4764@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030224004005.5e46758d.akpm@digeo.com> <20030224085031.GP10411@holomorphy.com> <20030224091758.A11805@hq.fsmlabs.com> <20030225020730.GA4507@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030225021426.GE11953@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030225021426.GE11953@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i From: Bill Huey (Hui) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1330 Lines: 28 On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 06:14:26PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > > Ok, replace "vague notion" with latency and scheduling concepts that > > everybody else except you understands and you'll be a bit more relevant. > > Victor has forgotten more than most people know about operating systems. > Dig into his background, he tends to know what he is talking about even > if he is a little terse at times. But apparently what knows is not very modern. I'm no slouch either being a former BSDi (the original Unix folks) engineer, but I don't go dimissing folks implicitly like he did to "The Will", William Irwin... and then not adding anything usable in the conversation. That's just no excuse for an adult running a company or in a public forum that's discussing these very important issues. Frankly, I don't care what he has or what traditional so called "Unix folks" think. Even FreeBSD's SMPng project, using BSD/OS's 5.0 code deals with these issues respectfully. These old school Unix folks seem to have a much more modern attitude towards this stuff than either you or Victor. bill - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/