Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:43:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:43:56 -0500 Received: from franka.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.44]:42445 "EHLO franka.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:43:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:54:04 -0800 From: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Tupshin Harper , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Server shipments [was Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call] Message-ID: <10860000.1046145242@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: <3E5ACE4C.5080908@tupshin.com> References: <20030222231552.GA31268@work.bitmover.com> <3610000.1045957443@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224045616.GB4215@work.bitmover.com> <48940000.1046063797@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224065826.GA5665@work.bitmover.com> <1630000.1046072374@[10.10.2.4]> <20030224161716.GC5665@work.bitmover.com> <12680000.1046105345@[10.10.2.4]> <20030225004113.GB12146@work.bitmover.com> <351250000.1046133664@flay> <20030225005451.GC12146@work.bitmover.com> <3E5ACE4C.5080908@tupshin.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1345 Lines: 24 > Given that a fairly thorough performance testing suite is already in > place, it would seem to be up to the advocates for the "threatened" > computing environment (large or small) to convince the "testers that be" > that certain tests should be added. It is inherently unreasonable to > expect the developer of a feature/change to be unbiased and neutral with > respect to that feature, therefore it is unreasonable to expect them to > prove beyond a reasonable doubt that their feature has no negative > impact. The best that they can do is convince themselves that the > feature passes the really deep sniff test. The rest is up to the > community. The ability of a third party to critique code changes is a > large part of why the bazaar nature of linux development is so valuable. An excellent and well thought out summary, and exactly why I welcome Larry's proposal to do some testing and produce specific numbers on specific patches instead of hand-waving and spreading FUD. This kind of arrangement is exactly why the open development model will allow Linux to win out in the long term. M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/