Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:32:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:32:53 -0500 Received: from packet.digeo.com ([12.110.80.53]:12282 "EHLO packet.digeo.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:32:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:43:21 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Patrick Mansfield Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.5.62-mm2 slow file system writes across multiple disks Message-Id: <20030224204321.5016ded6.akpm@digeo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030224174731.A31454@beaverton.ibm.com> References: <20030224120304.A29472@beaverton.ibm.com> <20030224135323.28bb2018.akpm@digeo.com> <20030224174731.A31454@beaverton.ibm.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.9 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2003 04:42:59.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F804520:01C2DC88] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4118 Lines: 91 Patrick Mansfield wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:53:23PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > Could be that concurrent umount isn't a good way of getting scalable > > writeout; I can't say that I've ever looked... > > > > Could you try putting a `sync' in there somewhere? > > > > Or even better, throw away dd and use write-and-fsync from ext3 CVS. Give it > > the -f flag to force an fsync against each file as it is closed. > > > > http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/ext3/ > > Using fsync didn't seem to make any difference. Something is up. > I moved to 2.5.62-mm3 [I had to drop back to qlogicisp for my boot disk, > and run the feral drver as a module in order to boot without hanging], and > ran write-and-fsync with -f, with and without -o (O_DIRECT). Is this using an enormous request queue or really deep TCQ or something? I always turn TCQ off, stupid noxious thing it is. > What keeps pdflush running when get_request_wait sleeps? I thought there > was (past tense) some creation of multiple pdflushes to handle such cases. When searching for pages to write out, pdflush will skip over superblocks which are backed by queues which are currently under write congestion. Once pdflush has walked all superblocks, it will take a little nap, waiting for some write requests to be put back and then it will take another search of the dirty superblocks. So pdflush can keep many queues busy, and should never wait in get_request_wait(). There are some little accident scenarios which could cause pdflush to get stuck, usually in a read from disk. But having more than just a single instance is probably overkill. I don't have enough disks to know, really. 17 in this box, but not enough scsi/pci bandwidth to feed them all. > Here are more details: Something is really up. When I do for i in sda5 sdb5 sdf5 sdg5 hde5 hdg5 do time write-and-fsync -f -m 100 /mnt/$i/1 & done I get: write-and-fsync -f -m 100 /mnt/$i/1 0.00s user 1.98s system 59% cpu 3.344 total write-and-fsync -f -m 100 /mnt/$i/1 0.00s user 2.12s system 60% cpu 3.519 total write-and-fsync -f -m 100 /mnt/$i/1 0.00s user 1.51s system 20% cpu 7.430 total write-and-fsync -f -m 100 /mnt/$i/1 0.00s user 1.67s system 20% cpu 7.975 total write-and-fsync -f -m 100 /mnt/$i/1 0.00s user 1.38s system 15% cpu 8.785 total write-and-fsync -f -m 100 /mnt/$i/1 0.00s user 1.44s system 12% cpu 11.611 total and procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- ----cpu---- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa 0 0 0 7196732 10668 8580 0 0 6 446 257 8 0 1 96 2 0 0 0 7196732 10668 8580 0 0 0 0 1160 6 0 0 100 0 0 0 0 7196732 10668 8580 0 0 0 0 1026 4 0 0 100 0 8 0 0 7089060 10796 115476 0 0 0 0 1044 57 0 34 65 0 10 0 0 6837660 11044 352880 0 0 0 39848 1250 32 0 100 0 0 9 0 0 6692308 11168 482548 0 0 0 134964 1517 45 0 100 0 0 0 7 0 6542812 11300 622980 0 0 8 294936 1560 89 0 79 0 21 0 5 0 6572796 11300 622980 0 0 0 74708 1484 556 0 7 5 88 0 5 0 6572860 11300 622980 0 0 0 38904 1170 101 0 1 25 74 0 5 0 6572892 11300 622980 0 0 0 20968 1170 203 0 1 24 75 0 4 0 6573324 11300 622980 0 0 0 7180 1178 277 0 1 24 74 0 2 0 6573580 11300 622980 0 0 0 3544 1143 174 0 0 30 69 0 1 0 6573948 11300 622980 0 0 0 4 1079 18 0 0 69 31 0 1 0 6573996 11300 622980 0 0 0 0 1058 5 0 0 75 25 100M isn't a lot. Using 1G lets things settle out better. So sorry, don't know. Badari had a setup like that happily sustaining 180 MB/sec a while back. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/