Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752596AbbKIROg (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Nov 2015 12:14:36 -0500 Received: from unicorn.mansr.com ([81.2.72.234]:34572 "EHLO unicorn.mansr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751675AbbKIROf convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Nov 2015 12:14:35 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= To: Greg KH Cc: Andy Lutomirski , One Thousand Gnomes , Djalal Harouni , "systemd-devel\@lists.freedesktop.org" , Linus Torvalds , "linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" , "Eric W. Biederman" , Havoc Pennington Subject: Re: kdbus refactoring? References: <20151108213526.GB942@kroah.com> <20151108233018.GA1852@kroah.com> <20151109170750.GA25306@kroah.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:14:34 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20151109170750.GA25306@kroah.com> (Greg KH's message of "Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:07:50 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2495 Lines: 57 Greg KH writes: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 05:02:45PM +0000, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: >> Andy Lutomirski writes: >> >> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:39:43PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> >>> > On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:06:31PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote: >> >>> >> Hi all, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> after reading on the removal of kdbus from Rawhide[1] I've searched >> >>> >> the mailinglist archives for more details but didn't find anything. >> >>> >> So, what are your plans? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2015-October/006011.html >> >>> > >> >>> > As that link said, based on the result of the code being in Rawhide, it >> >>> > is now being reworked / redesigned. The result will be posted for >> >>> > review "when it's ready". >> >>> >> >>> If you rework/redesign something you have to know what you want to change. >> >>> That's why I was asking for the plan... >> >> >> >> Since when do people post "plans" or "design documents" on lkml without >> >> real code? Again, code will be posted when it's ready, like any other >> >> kernel submission. >> > >> > I ask for feedback on ideas and designs on a fairly regular basis. I >> > even frequently get valuable feedback :) >> > >> > I would like to think that the kernel community would have something >> > of value to add to the process of designing and implementing a major >> > new IPC mechanism. >> >> The "trust us, we'll show it when it's ready" attitude reminds me of the >> controversial TPP and TTIP negotiations. > > Ok, that's just trolling, cut it out. > > When something is even in the "hey look, it works, here's the big > changes from last time", we will of course post it, but right now, > things are being totally revisited based on the feedback we have > received so far. Give people a chance to recover from conferences and > then get back to work... If there are public discussions about it elsewhere, you could have simply pointed at those instead being condescending. -- M?ns Rullg?rd mans@mansr.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/