Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:02:48 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:02:48 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:9227 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3E623B9A.8050405@pobox.com> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 12:12:58 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021213 Debian/1.2.1-2.bunk X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "H. Peter Anvin" CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: BitBucket: GPL-ed *notrademarkhere* clone References: <200303020011.QAA13450@adam.yggdrasil.com> <3E615C38.7030609@pobox.com> <20030302014039.GC1364@dualathlon.random> <3E616224.6040003@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1667 Lines: 45 H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Followup to: <3E616224.6040003@pobox.com> > By author: Jeff Garzik > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > >>You're missing the point: >> >>A BK exporter is useful. A BK clone is not. >> > > > I disagree. A BK clone would almost certainly be highly useful. The > fact that it would happen to be compatible with one particular > proprietary tool released by one particular company doesn't change > that fact one iota; in fact, some people might find value in using the > proprietary tool for whatever reason (snazzy GUI, keeping the suits > happy, who knows...) While people would certainly use it, I can't help but think that a BK clone would damage other open source SCM efforts. I call this the "SourceForge Syndrome": Q. I found a problem/bug/annoyance, how do I solve it? A. Clearly, a brand new sourceforge project is called for. My counter-question is, why not improve an _existing_ open source SCM to read and write BitKeeper files? Why do we need yet another brand new project? AFAICS, a BK clone would just further divide resources and mindshare. I personally _want_ an open source SCM that is as good as, or better, than BitKeeper. The open source world needs that, and BitKeeper needs the competition. A BK clone may work with BitKeeper files, but I don't see it ever being as good as BK, because it will always be playing catch-up. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/