Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932562AbbLGSRa (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:17:30 -0500 Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com ([209.85.213.174]:36467 "EHLO mail-ig0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755713AbbLGSR0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:17:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: email-clients.txt To: Randy Dunlap , Jonathan Corbet , Sanidhya Solanki References: <20151206010939.13c6a32f@gmail.com> <20151206083037.2bde6e58@lwn.net> <5664A01D.3010300@infradead.org> Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Austin S Hemmelgarn Message-ID: <5665CCF4.2010506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:16:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5664A01D.3010300@infradead.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-512; boundary="------------ms010604030706020106000100" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 151207-1, 2015-12-07), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 8572 Lines: 180 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010604030706020106000100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-12-06 15:52, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On 12/06/15 07:30, Jonathan Corbet wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 01:09:39 -0500 >> Sanidhya Solanki wrote: >> >>> Patch included below. As an aside, thank you for the excellent work o= n >>> the books and other documentation. >> >> Thanks for the nice comments. Future praise, however, should go below= the >> "---" marker so I don't have to edit it out of the changelogs :) >> >>> Documentation: email-clients.txt >>> >>> The information for Claws Mail, Evolution and Thunderbird was out of >>> date. It has been updated with new instructions and warnings. >> >> So I feel like I'm missing some sort of intentional irony, but I do ha= ve >> to point out that this patch has been corrupted by your mailer and can= not >> be applied. The usual advice here applies: try sending the email to >> yourself and applying the result. >> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/email-clients.txt >>> b/Documentation/email-clients.txt index 2d485de..8819c90 100644 >>> --- a/Documentation/email-clients.txt >>> +++ b/Documentation/email-clients.txt >>> @@ -79,17 +79,27 @@ to insert into the message. >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Claws Mail (GUI) >>> >>> -Works. Some people use this successfully for patches. >>> +Tested and Works as of December 2015. Some people use this successfu= lly >>> +for patches. >> >> Not sure we need datestamps like this here. In any case, a few kernel= >> developers are known to use claws - myself included. We test it every= day :) >> >>> To insert a patch use Message->Insert File (CTRL+i) or an external >>> editor. >>> If the inserted patch has to be edited in the Claws composition win= dow >>> "Auto wrapping" in Configuration->Preferences->Compose->Wrapping >>> should be -disabled. >>> +disabled. Also, under the heading "View", sub-heading "Character >>> Encoding" +, choose "Unicode (UTF - 8)" >>> + >>> +Do remember that if you insert or type something in the main text ar= ea, >>> +and decide to delete it, you will need to reset the formatting by >>> opening +a new window for the change you want to make. Re-using the >>> window in which +you deleted the text will lead to the new message >>> being mangled. >> >> ...and this makes no sense to me. I've never seen any such behavior i= n >> claws? >> >>> Evolution (GUI) >>> >>> +As of December 2015, the composing & inserting method described bel= ow >>> +does not work. >> >> Could it really be that nobody is using evolution? Much nicer here wo= uld >> be to describe how it fails to work, and, ideally, come up with a fix.= >> >>> Some people use this successfully for patches. >>> >>> When composing mail select: Preformat >>> @@ -244,8 +254,9 @@ Sylpheed (GUI) >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Thunderbird (GUI) >>> >>> -Thunderbird is an Outlook clone that likes to mangle text, but there= >>> are ways -to coerce it into behaving. >>> +Thunderbird is an Outlook clone that likes to mangle text, but there= >>> are +ways to coerce it into behaving. In December 2015, the internal >>> editor +options do not appear to work. >> >> Again, what's the problem here? I suspect there are people using >> Thunderbird out there, how are they doing it if the documented approac= h >> doesn't work? > > I use thunderbird with an external editor plugin, so I just insert patc= hes with > the external editor. > It may be worth noting that you can get a plugin that lets you just=20 toggle word-wrap with the internal editor (rather un-inventively called=20 'Toggle Word Wrap'), and that _seems_ to work most of the time. 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