Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:36:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:36:49 -0500 Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com ([192.108.102.143]:54794 "EHLO smtp-send.myrealbox.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:36:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows temperature anomaly From: "Trever L. Adams" To: Ed Sweetman Cc: Russell King , Con Kolivas , Herman Oosthuysen , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <3E66964E.6050101@wmich.edu> References: <20030303123029.GC20929@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <3E66842F.9020000@WirelessNetworksInc.com> <200303061038.44872.kernel@kolivas.org> <20030305235057.M20511@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <3E66964E.6050101@wmich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1046911624.1051.35.camel@aurora.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-1) Date: 05 Mar 2003 19:47:05 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1649 Lines: 34 > The behavior you describe is when you increase the power output of a > chip beyond normal specifications (overclocking) then the temperature of > failure is lowered. eg. A chip that would run normally at 50C now can > only run stable at 45-40. You are the one mistaken. Most CPUs don't dissipate a constant amount of power as heat. That depends on what the CPU is doing. For example, even the Athlon without disconnect will cool some when it is 'halt'ed. If a CPU is working more, accomplishing more than it was at another time, it will be needing to rid itself of more heat. Hence, the fact that the external temperature becomes the limiting factor (along with how good the heat exchange system is [i.e. heat sink/fan]). I do believe the previous poster was incorrect about the mathematical relationship between case and CPU temperatures. They are NOT a 1:1. However, he is right, they are mathematically related. Just as the heat dissipated and the work done are related. You do not need to overclock a CPU to get this kind of a change. The change in the efficiency (memory management, task switching, etc.) of how the work is done can cause the CPU to be worked harder... and when the CPU is worked harder, so is memory and quite often just about everything else. Trever -- One O.S. to rule them all, One O.S. to find them. One O.S. to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/