Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755127AbbLPTOe (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:14:34 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:43431 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752859AbbLPTOc (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:14:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:14:28 -0500 From: Jessica Yu To: Miroslav Benes Cc: Josh Poimboeuf , Rusty Russell , Seth Jennings , Jiri Kosina , Vojtech Pavlik , Jonathan Corbet , linux-api@vger.kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: livepatch: reuse module loader code to write relocations Message-ID: <20151216191427.GA29092@packer-debian-8-amd64.digitalocean.com> References: <1448943679-3412-1-git-send-email-jeyu@redhat.com> <1448943679-3412-5-git-send-email-jeyu@redhat.com> <20151208183844.GC14846@treble.redhat.com> <20151209191013.GA25387@packer-debian-8-amd64.digitalocean.com> <20151216054048.GA28258@packer-debian-8-amd64.digitalocean.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: Linux eisen.io 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 10468 Lines: 213 +++ Miroslav Benes [16/12/15 13:59 +0100]: >On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Jessica Yu wrote: > >> +++ Jessica Yu [09/12/15 14:10 -0500]: >> > +++ Josh Poimboeuf [08/12/15 12:38 -0600]: >> > > >> > > There was a lot of discussion for v1, so I'm not sure, but I thought we >> > > ended up deciding to get rid of the klp_reloc_sec struct? Instead I >> > > think the symbol table can be walked directly looking for klp rela >> > > sections? >> > > >> > > The benefits of doing so would be to make the interface simpler -- no >> > > need to "cache" the section metadata when it's already easily and >> > > quickly available in the module struct elf section headers. >> > >> > Ah, I might have interpreted the conclusions of that last discussion >> > incorrectly. >> > >> > In that case, I think I can just get rid of my klp_for_each_reloc_sec >> > macro as well as the lreloc scaffolding code from kpatch. The only >> > potentially "ugly" part of this change is that I'll have to move the >> > string parsing stuff here to extract the objname of the __klp_rela >> > section (which may not actually look that bad, we'll see how that >> > turns out). > >Yes, that was a conclusion we made. At least I thought so :) > >> Turns out the string parsing stuff, even with the help of lib/string.c, >> doesn't >> look very pretty. As I'm working on v3, I'm starting to think having >> klp_write_object_relocations() loop simply through all the elf sections might >> not be a good idea. Let me explain. > >Hm, I still think it is worth it... > >> I don't like the amount of string manipulation code that would potentially >> come >> with this change. Even with a string as simple as ".klp.rela.objname", we'll >> end up with a bunch of kstrdup's/kmalloc's and kfree's (unless we modify and >> chop the section name string in place, which I don't think we should do) that >> are going to be required at every iteration of the loop, all just to be able >> to >> call strcmp() and see if we're dealing with a klp rela section that belongs to >> the object in question. This also leads to more complicated error handling. > >But this shouldn't be much different from what init function of the patch >module does now, right? You have a klp_extract_objname() which I thought >could be moved right to livepatch code. First, thanks for the comments. I think my only real gripe is that, in the pseudo code I provided, we are not only doing the for loop for each object, but also a bunch of kmalloc's/kstrdup's and kfree's just to be able to check if this klp section belongs to the current object, *and* also kmallocing/kfreeing just to provide buffers to extract parts of a symbol's name. In the patch module code, each klp section was parsed just once and sorted by object: https://github.com/flaming-toast/kpatch/blob/no_dynrela_redux/kmod/patch/livepatch-patch-hook.c#L213 ^^^ This was before we decided to get rid of 'external', so only klp sections had to be parsed. In v3, we are also looking to parse the symbol name (to eliminate 'external'), so now I'm just trying to reduce all the string stuff to the bare minimum needed to have this work. function klp_write_object_relocations(..,struct klp_object *obj,..) { for each section in mod->sechdrs { // iterate through all elf sections, no more obj->reloc_secs list if not a klp rela section continue; -> sec_objname = extract_objname_from_section(section); // .klp.rela.[objname].sectionname -> if (strcmp(sec_objname, obj->name)) { // this klp rela section doesn't belong to this object -> kfree(sec_objname); -> continue; } for each rela in this klp rela section { sym = symtab + ELF_R_SYM(rela->r_info); -> sym_objname = extract_objname_from_symbol(sym) // symname.klp.[objname] -> if (!sym_objname) -> goto handle_error; // calls kfree(sec_objname); -> symname = extract_symname_from_symbol(sym); // [symname].klp.objname -> if (!symname) -> goto handle_error; // calls kfree(sec_objname); ret = klp_find_object_symbol(sym_objname, symname, &addr) if (ret) -> goto handle_error2; // calls kfree(symname), then kfree(sec_objname) sym->st_value = addr; -> if (sym_objname) // free buffers before proceeding to next iteration of loop -> kfree(sym_objname); -> kfree(symname); } [ snipped rest of function ] I'm trying to figure out a way to simplify all the lines marked with '->', and make this code as readable and palatable as possible. I think primarily the kfree's and multiple error-handling goto's bothered me, which is why I suggested putting the symname.klp.[objname] part in .kpatch.strings and using those masks I suggested. Then we wouldn't even need to set-up temporary buffers to hold the sym_objname + symname strings. You're right that this would require another assumption about the patch module, but I think having the names of livepatch symbols formatted as 'symname.klp.objname' was already another assumption, and using .kpatch.strings would just be changing this assumption. >> In v1, the string parsing was done only *once* for each klp rela section in >> the >> patch module code, and each klp rela section is sorted into their respective >> object with the reloc_secs list. Then all klp_write_object_relocations() had >> to >> do is iterate over object->reloc_secs. The tradeoff here is the addition of >> another struct (klp_reloc_sec), but that is not nearly as bad as string >> parsing, which is imo way more error prone and is unnecessary extra work. > >If it is a problem (and Josh thought it was not if I recall correctly) we >can cache indices to relevant rela sections in klp_object as we discussed >in v1. > >> Here's some pseudocode to help visualize the potential issues: >> >> function klp_write_object_relocations(..,struct klp_object *obj,..) { >> for each section in mod->sechdrs { // iterate through all elf sections, no >> more obj->reloc_secs list >> if not a klp rela section >> continue; >> sec_objname = extract_objname_from_section(section); // >> .klp.rela.[objname].sectionname >> if (strcmp(sec_objname, obj->name)) { // this klp rela section doesn't >> belong to this object >> kfree(sec_objname); >> continue; >> } >> >> for each rela in this klp rela section { >> sym = symtab + ELF_R_SYM(rela->r_info); >> sym_objname = extract_objname_from_symbol(sym) // >> symname.klp.[objname] > >This is because of 'external' stuff, right? Correct, in the v2 discussion we decided symbol names can have the names of their objects attached, which will eliminate the need for the external flag and klp_find_external_symbol(). >> if (!sym_objname) >> goto handle_error; // calls kfree(sec_objname); >> symname = extract_symname_from_symbol(sym); // [symname].klp.objname > >Can't we use a method from the patch? That is > >symname = pmod->core_strtab + sym->st_name; Since we are removing 'external', we decided to append the objname to the symbol name. But then extra string parsing is needed to get the real symbol name. So, pmod->core_strtab + sym->st_name would correspond to the full name, formatted as 'symname.klp.objname'. We parse to get the real symname and the objname. Then we no longer need the klp_find_external_symbol() call, it'd just be one call to klp_find_object_symbol(sym_objname, symname, addr) >> if (!symname) >> goto handle_error; // calls kfree(sec_objname); >> ret = klp_find_object_symbol(sym_objname, symname, &addr) >> if (ret) >> goto handle_error2; // calls kfree(symname), then >> kfree(sec_objname) >> >> ...etc., you get the idea how messy that is getting, and we haven't even >> reached the call to apply_relocate_add() yet. >> >> So I personally think it is better to keep the old v1 way for applying the klp >> reloc secs. The sections are still named ".klp.rela.objname" but the parsing >> is >> done once in the patch module code and used only to build the patch >> scaffolding >> structure. >> >> In order to avoid adding any additional string parsing code in v3, I no longer >> thing we should rename livepatch symbols to include the symbol objname (i.e. >> 'symbol.klp.objname'). Recall that this change is for getting rid of external >> dynrelas. Instead of parsing the symbol name, we could just encode 1) the >> sympos and 2) the index into the .kpatch.strings strtab (that contains the >> sym_objname) in sym->st_value. We define two masks (KLP_MASK_SYMPOS, >> KLP_MASK_OBJNAME) that extract these values. st_value has either a 32 bit or >> 64 >> bit size, both of which are big enough sizes for the sympos and string table >> index. One perk we lose is being able to see which object a symbol belongs to >> in readelf, but then again we didn't have this benefit to begin with in >> v1 nor v2 (where we didn't know the symbol's object and had to use >> klp_find_external_symbol anyway), so I wouldn't say it's a loss. > >Just a note. This would lead to another assumption about a patch >module... .kpatch.strings. I suspect 'external' symbols are kpatch >specific (I think I did not deal with it while working on relocations for >kgraft. But I am not sure now. I haven't finished it too.), but let's try >to make it "generic". I think 'external' is kpatch-specific (correct me if I'm wrong), as I explained above we're trying to get rid of it. >> Apologies for the super long explanations, but I think avoiding string parsing >> in livepatch core code will make the relocation code much more succinct and >> easier to read. Any objections or thoughts on all this? > >My main argument is that the work needs to be done somewhere and there is >no reason why not do it right in the kernel and not in patch modules. The >code should be more or less the same and we'd get rid of unnecessary >layers (klp_reloc_sec) as Josh pointed out. Right, OK. I agree that this work has to be done somewhere, I am just hesitant about the new string handling code, as I pointed out above. If people are OK and agree that this is the better approach, then I will keep it. 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