Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:01:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:01:59 -0500 Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([208.129.208.51]:55190 "EHLO x35.xmailserver.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:01:58 -0500 X-AuthUser: davidel@xmailserver.org Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: Davide Libenzi X-X-Sender: davide@blue1.dev.mcafeelabs.com To: Larry McVoy cc: Zack Brown , Linus Torvalds , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone In-Reply-To: <20030309000514.GB1807@work.bitmover.com> Message-ID: References: <200303020011.QAA13450@adam.yggdrasil.com> <20030307123237.GG18420@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20030307165413.GA78966@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20030307190848.GB21023@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20030308225252.GA23972@renegade> <20030309000514.GB1807@work.bitmover.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1929 Lines: 40 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > Give it up. BitKeeper is simply superior to CVS/SVN, and will stay that > > > way indefinitely since most people don't seem to even understand _why_ > > > it is superior. > > > > You make it sound like no one is even interested ;-). But it's not true! A > > lot of people currently working on alternative version control systems would > > like very much to know what it would take to satisfy the needs of kernel > > development. Maybe, being on the inside of the process and well aware of > > your own needs, you don't realize how difficult it is to figure these things > > out from the outside. I think only very few people (perhaps only one) really > > understand this issue, and they aren't communicating with the horde of people > > who really want to help, if only they knew how. > > [Long rant, summary: it's harder than you think, read on for the details] > > There are parts of BitKeeper which required multiple years of thought by > people a lot smarter than me. You guys are under the mistaken impression > that BitKeeper is my doing; it's not. There are a lot of people who > work here and they have some amazing brains. To create something like > BK is actually more difficult than creating a kernel. Larry, how many years are that you're working as a developer and side by side with developers ? 15 maybe 20 ? Do you know what's the best way to keep developers out of doing something ? Well, just say the task is trivial, easy, for dummies. And you will see developers stay away from the project like cats from water. Try, even remotely, to dress the project with complexity, and they'll come in storms ... - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/