Subject: Re: [Propose] Isolate core_pattern in mnt namespace.
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
        Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
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Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:12:35 +0900
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On 2015/12/22 6:52, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> writes:
> 
>> On 12/20/2015 05:47 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 12/20/2015 10:37 AM, Al Viro wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:14:29AM +0800, Dongsheng Yang wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/17/2015 07:23 PM, Dongsheng Yang wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>        We are working on making core dump behaviour isolated in
>>>>>>> container. But the problem is, the /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
>>>>>>> is a kernel wide setting, not belongs to a container.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        So we want to add core_pattern into mnt namespace. What
>>>>>>> do you think about it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>> 	I found your patch about "net: Implement the per network namespace
>>>>>> sysctl infrastructure", I want to do the similar thing
>>>>>> in mnt namespace. Is that suggested way?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why mnt namespace and not something else?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Al,
>>>>
>>>> Well, because core_pattern indicates the path to store core file.
>>>> In different mnt namespace, we would like to change the path with
>>>> different value.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, Let's considering other namespaces:
>>>> UTS ns: contains informations of kernel and arch, not proper for core_pattern.
>>>> IPC ns: communication informations, not proper for core_pattern
>>>> PID ns: core_pattern is not related with pid
>>>> net ns: obviousely no.
>>>> user ns: not proper too.
>>>>
>>>> Then I believe it's better to do this in mnt namespace. of course,
>>>> core_pattern is just one example. After this infrastructure finished,
>>>> we can implement more sysctls as per-mnt if necessary, I think.
>>>>
>>>> Al, what do you think about this idea?
>>>
>>> The hard part is not the sysctl.  The hard part is starting the usermode
>>> helper, in an environment that it can deal with.  The mount namespace
>>> really provides you with no help there.
>>
>> Do you mean the core dump helper? But I think I don't want to touch it
>> in my development. I think I can use non-pipe way to get what I want,
>> Let me try to explain what I want here.
>>
>> (1). introduce a --core-path option in docker run command to specify the
>> path in host to store core file in one container.
>> E.g: docker run --core-path=/core/test --name=test IMAGE
>>
>> (2). When the container starting, docker attach a volume to it, similar
>> with "-v /core/test:/var/lib/docker/coredump". That means, the path of
>> /var/lib/docker/coredump in container is a link to /core/test in host.
>>
>> (3). Set the /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern in container as
>> "/var/lib/docker/coredump". But that should not affect the core_pattern
>> in host or other containers.
>>
>> Then I think I can collect the core files from each container and save
>> them in the paths where I want.
> 
> For your case that sounds like it would work.  Unfortunately for this to
> be generally applicable and to let the OS in the contianer control it's
> fate the core dump pattern needs to be supported.
> 
> Otherwise something clever in userspace that can be written now should
> be sufficient to fill the gap.  There is enough information for the user
> mode helper to implement the policy you would like today.
> 
Let me clarify my understanding.

1) running user-mode-helper in a container.
   It's not supported by the kernel. user-mode-helper always works on a host.

2) running user mode helper in a host.
  It's supported in the newest distro(FC23). (abrt supports container.)
  Summary is here. https://github.com/abrt/abrt/wiki/Containers-and-chroots

If a guest user doesn't want to pass a core to the host owner, core_pattern
should be configurable but it can't.

Thanks,
-Kame


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