Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754927AbcCBLUl (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Mar 2016 06:20:41 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-f54.google.com ([74.125.82.54]:35276 "EHLO mail-wm0-f54.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754586AbcCBLUj (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Mar 2016 06:20:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:20:36 +0000 From: Matt Fleming To: Sylvain Chouleur Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , Borislav Petkov , Sai Praneeth Prakhya , "Ravi V. Shankar" , Toshi Kani , Brian Gerst , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Luis Rodriguez , Andrew Morton , Denys Vlasenko , "H. Peter Anvin" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Peter Zijlstra , ricardo.neri@intel.com, Hugh Dickins , Ard Biesheuvel Subject: Re: [tip:efi/core] x86/mm/pat: Use _PAGE_GLOBAL bit for EFI page table mappings Message-ID: <20160302112036.GB2649@codeblueprint.co.uk> References: <1456275002.2781.41.camel@intel.com> <20160224141046.GA2603@codeblueprint.co.uk> <20160224162002.GE3888@pd.tnic> <20160224194501.GE2603@codeblueprint.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24+41 (02bc14ed1569) (2015-08-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1788 Lines: 38 On Mon, 29 Feb, at 11:56:56AM, Sylvain Chouleur wrote: > 2016-02-24 20:45 GMT+01:00 Matt Fleming : > > On Wed, 24 Feb, at 10:56:13AM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > >> >> > >> >> So the EFI runtime crap should not change once it is mapped. And those > >> >> should be global. It is only natural. > >> > > >> > Why is it natural? > >> > > >> > Long-term, I'd rather see EFI runtime services use an actual mm_struct > >> > and use_mm. > >> > >> Definitely. > >> > >> The EFI runtime page mapping may be unchanging, but that doesn't mean > >> we should be mapping it all the time - the mapping may not change, but > >> we will change away from it. > > > > There is movement towards hanging the EFI memory map off of mm_struct > > for x86. ARM and arm64 already do this and there were some patches > > from Sylvain (Cc'd) to do this for the purposes of having a task > > context that could be preempted while in the middle of an EFI runtime > > call for some Intel platforms, > > > > https://lkml.kernel.org/r/1452702762-27216-4-git-send-email-sylvain.chouleur@gmail.com > > I was thinking we could use the efi kthread to handle the efi services > generically, not only for the interruptible case, and have a way to decide if we > allow interruptions inside the efi call itself or not. > > Then all runtime services would use an mm_struct. The drawback is that you will > need two context switchs to be able to execute the runtime service. I would be surprised if the asynchronous nature of having a special EFI kthread would buy you any benefit in general. And in fact, in the efi-pstore code you can be invoked in IRQ context and you really don't want to start talking to a kthread.