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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 01:13:15 -0800 (PST)
From: pd dd <parviz_kernel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Linux BUG: Memory Leak
To: "M. Soltysiak" <msoltysiak@hotmail.com>,
       ML-linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "M. Soltysiak" <msoltysiak@hotmail.com>,
       William Stearns <wstearns@pobox.com>
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With all due respect to all the great programmers and
minds in this mailing list. I could not read this and
not reply to this guy:

Maybe you should take your games and movies to windows
and leave linux for more serious stuff. That'll fix
your memory leak.

 
--- William Stearns <wstearns@pobox.com> wrote:
> 	(Response sent to me, bounced back to the list
> where brighter 
> minds may be able to offer useful suggestions)
> 
> 
> > Please don't start the post with a negative tone;
> focus on a
> problem in software rather than > on insulting the
> people from whom you
> want.
> 
> Sorry.? And, no, I'm not insulting people.? But I do
> encourage good
> programming practices.? Don't you? :)
> 
> >you tell us what kernel version you're using, what
> modules are
> loaded,
> 
> Sorry.? I forgot--2.4.20.? Modules: ne2000 network
> driver, pci; via-rhine,
> pci; emu10k1, pci; usbcore, uhci, usb mouse; all
> iptables modules--all of
> them.
> 
> >want to mention what Linux distribution you're
> using.
> 
> Sorry.? Slackware 8.1.??Won't help.
> 
> >kernel yourself.
> 
> I compiled the kernel myself.? Memory leak located
> in kernel.
> 
> > Does the system pass a night's worth of memtest86
> successfully?
> 
> Kernel memory leak.
> 
> >If we can rule out hardware, that narrows the
> problem space down
> some.
> 
> cards: emu10k1, via-rhine, pci; ne2000, pci; usb
> standard, intel.? Via
> chipset, unknown - on another computer right now.?
> but that's *not* the
> problem.
> 
> > Again, it sounds like you're taking an insulting
> tone. :-)
> 
> I am sorry.? I'm usually direct.? I will try to look
> for the bug this
> weekend, but i have a few things to do.? Sigh.
> 
> > "Acts dead" - what does that mean? Sluggish?
> 
> Dead.? It's a DOSS over the system.? All I did was
> install this game,
> hoping to play it, after a few weaks.? Anyway, the
> systems installs,
> X11-KDE running (140 Megs total by X11 and KDE);
> Linux installs it, then
> it gets slower and slower, etc.? Finally dead.? Even
> the interrupts
> die--only keyboards, usb mouse; but the network
> still works (slowly)).
> 
> >seconds, then returns to normal? Swapping madly?
> For how long?
> 
> Swap space will become full.? Then the duel-1Ghz
> with 1 MByte system will
> die - hardware -- except network - interrupts die.
> 
> >lockup, no keys do anything? Does the caps lock key
> change the
> state of the caps lock led? Do the
> caps/scroll/numlock lights flash on and
> off without keypresses? Does anything show up in the
> logs on next boot?
> Can you kill X11 with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace? Can you
> reboot the box with
> Ctrl-Alt-Del? Does Sysrq-S force disk activity? Can
> you ssh in from
> 
> >another box when it "acts dead"?
> 
> Interrupts are dead on the keyboard and mouse,
> except for the harddisk and
> network.
> 
> > What are the last few lines from "vmstat 1" when
> the system
> freezes?
> 
> Ah, i did not use that.? not on my box now.? sorry.?
> but the ram is 0
> free, system is working, but interrupts are
> crippled.
> 
> > Can you make the problem occur with fewer
> programs, say, just
> with Mozilla, or just with > Unreal?
> 
> Yes.? Xine - movie player.? I watch a few movies
> (not completely) and
> Linux keeps using memory until it acts dead.? In
> other words, I watch Lord
> of the Rings: Two Towers.? Then the system will play
> the movie slower,
> slower, until the frames' speed record becomes about
> 5 to 10 fps.? Then i
> will just stand still - frozen - and?some hardware
> interrupts (keyboard,
> usb-mouse) will not respond.
> 
> ?>show up? Minutes, hours, days?
> 
> This occurs in about 2 hours or less.? Not
> time-dependent, sort of like
> Stationary states in quantum mechanics.
> 
> > If you'd prefer, feel free.
> 
> I will try.? Fibre optics and school do take time.
> 
> >You do remember that the people from whom you're
> asking help
> have day jobs too, right? >*grin*
> 
> Yea.? Why are you working on Linux again?
> 
> Don't get offended to anything. I respect those who
> write for Linux.? But
> I do believe, that If one will write open source
> software as major as
> linux, one should not write software if they're not
> serious -- that is,
> good at?relative, but-free programming -- toward
> it.? Just a thought.
> 
> M.C.S
> 
> 
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