Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:27:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:27:06 -0500 Received: from smtp1.cern.ch ([137.138.128.38]:275 "EHLO smtp1.cern.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:26:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:26:48 +0100 From: Jamie Lokier To: Martin Mares Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [rfc] Near-constant time directory index for Ext2 Message-ID: <20010222002648.A26568@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> In-Reply-To: <20010221220835.A8781@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20010221223238.A17903@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <971ejs$139$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <20010221233204.A26671@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <3A94435D.59A4D729@transmeta.com> <20010221235008.A27924@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <3A94470C.2E54EB58@transmeta.com> <20010222000755.A29061@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010222000755.A29061@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>; from mj@suse.cz on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:07:55AM +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Martin Mares wrote: > Hello! > > > True. Note too, though, that on a filesystem (which we are, after all, > > talking about), if you assume a large linear space you have to create a > > file, which means you need to multiply the cost of all random-access > > operations with O(log n). > > One could avoid this, but it would mean designing the whole filesystem in a > completely different way -- merge all directories to a single gigantic > hash table and use (directory ID,file name) as a key, but we were originally > talking about extending ext2, so such massive changes are out of question > and your log n access argument is right. A gigantic hash table has serious problems with non-locality of reference. Basically any regular access pattern you started with is destroyed. This is a problem with pageable RAM, let alone disks with millisecond seek times. -- Jamie - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/