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Thanks for taking the time to write this FAQ. It is very informative.

One question I would like answered and possibly included in the FAQ is 
as follows.
When an unclean shutdown ( or similar event, but not bad disks ) causes 
the raid array to be resynced on a subsequent reboot and if the resync 
process is crunching more resources than desired - possibly due to the 
presence of multiple raid volumes that need resyncing - , is there a way 
for a user process to request the kernel to stop the resync process for 
the time being? In other words can the user choose to wait and do the 
resync at what he thinks is a more appropriate time - in terms of 
resouce availability - ( at night, for instance ) if he is willing to 
take up the risk involved ? If yes, how can the kernel raid-recovery 
processes be stopped/controlled ?

Nandu

gleblanc@linuxweasel.com wrote:

>Here's the latest release of the Linux RAID FAQ.  Feel free to mail me
>with anything you'd like added, or with corrections/comments.  
>
>
>Linux-RAID FAQ
>
>Gregory Leblanc
>
>Revision History                                                             
>Revision v0.0.12          2003-03-05              Revised by: gml            
>Fleshed out questions that cover using mdadm, small formatting changes       
>Revision v0.0.11          2003-01-08              Revised by: gml            
>Updated Archive Locations, information on when to patch, added a note about  
>old patches being missing, removed question about the raidtools being        
>dangerous (since they don't appear to be so labeled any longer).             
>Revision v0.0.10          24 April 2001           Revised by: gml            
>Added a new section and question about benchmarking.                         
>
>
>This is a FAQ for the Linux-RAID mailing list, hosted on vger.kernel.org.
>vger.rutgers.edu is gone, so don't bother looking for it. It's intended as a
>supplement to the existing Linux-RAID HOWTO, to cover questions that keep
>occurring on the mailing list. PLEASE read this document before your post to
>the list.
>
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>Table of Contents
>1. Linux RAID FAQ
>
>1. Linux RAID FAQ
>
>1. General
>    1.1.1. Where can I find archives for the linux-raid mailing list?
>    1.1.2. Where can I find the latest version of this FAQ?
>    1.1.3. What sorts of things does this list cover?
>   
>   
>2. Kernel
>    1.2.1. I'm running [insert your linux distribution here]. Do I need to
>        patch my kernel to make RAID work?
>    1.2.2. How can I tell if I need to patch my kernel?
>    1.2.3. Where can I get the latest RAID patches for my kernel?
>    1.2.4. How do I apply the patch to a kernel that I just downloaded from
>        ftp.kernel.org?
>    1.2.5. What kind of drives can I use RAID with? Do only SCSI or IDE
>        drives work? Do I need different patches for different kinds of
>        drives?
>   
>   
>3. RAID tools
>    1.3.1. What tools are available for dealing with my Linux Software RAID
>        arrays?
>   
>   
>4. Disk Failures and Recovery
>    1.4.1. How can I tell if one of the disks in my RAID array has failed?
>    1.4.2. So my RAID set is missing a disk, what do I do now?
>    1.4.3. dmesg shows "md: serializing resync, md4 has overlapping physical
>        units with md5" (where md4 and md5 are two of your software RAID
>        devices). What does this mean?
>   
>   
>5. Benchmarking
>    1.5.1. How should I benchmark my RAID devices? Are there any tools that
>        work particularly well?
>   
>   
>
>1. General
>
>1.1.1. Where can I find archives for the linux-raid mailing list?
>
>The only archives left seem to be available at [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com
>/?l=linux-raid&r=1&w=2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-raid&r=1&w=2
>
>1.1.2. Where can I find the latest version of this FAQ?
>
>The latest version of this FAQ will be available from the LDP website at
>[http://www.tldp.org/FAQ/] http://www.tldp.org/FAQ/.
>
>1.1.3. What sorts of things does this list cover?
>
>Well, obviously this list covers RAID in relation to Linux. Most of the
>discussions are related to the raid code that's been built into the Linux
>kernel. There are also a few discussions on getting hardware based RAID
>controllers working using Linux as the operating system. Any and all of these
>discussions are valid for this list.
>
>2. Kernel
>
>1.2.1. I'm running [insert your linux distribution here]. Do I need to patch
>my kernel to make RAID work?
>
>At this point, most major distributions are shipping with a 2.4 based kernel,
>which already includes the necessary patches. If your distribution is still
>using a 2.2.x kernel, upgrade!
>
>  If you download a 2.2.x kernel from ftp.kernel.org, then you will need to
>patch your kernel.
>
>1.2.2. How can I tell if I need to patch my kernel?
>
>That depends on which kernel series you're using. If you're using the 2.4.x
>kernels, then you've already got the latest RAID code that's available. If
>you're running 2.2.x, see the following instructions on how to find out.
>
>The easiest way is to check what's in /proc/mdstat. Here's a sample from a
>2.2.x kernel, with the RAID patches applied.
>                                                                             
>                                                                             
>[gleblanc@grego1 gleblanc]$ cat /proc/mdstat                                 
>Personalities : [linear] [raid0] [raid1] [raid5] [translucent]               
>read_ahead not set                                                           
>unused devices: <none>                                                       
>                                                                             
>If the contents of /proc/mdstat looks like the above, then you don't need to
>patch your kernel.
>
>The "Personalities" line in your kernel may not look exactly like the above,
>if you have RAID compiled as modules. Most distributions will have RAID
>compiled as modules to save space on the boot diskette. If you're not using
>any RAID sets, then you will probably see a blank space at the end of the
>"Personalities" line, don't worry, that just means that the RAID modules
>aren't loaded yet.
>
>Here's a sample from a 2.2.x kernel, without the RAID patches applied.
>[root@serek ~]# cat /proc/mdstat                                             
>Personalities : [1 linear] [2 raid0]                                         
>read_ahead not set                                                           
>md0 : inactive                                                               
>md1 : inactive                                                               
>md2 : inactive                                                               
>md3 : inactive                                                               
>                                                                             
>                                                                             
>If your /proc/mdstat looks like this one, then you need to patch your kernel.
>
>1.2.3. Where can I get the latest RAID patches for my kernel?
>
>The patches for the 2.2.x kernels up to, and including, 2.2.13 are available
>from [ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/daemons/raid/alpha/] ftp.kernel.org. Use
>the kernel patch that most closely matches your kernel revision. For example,
>the 2.2.11 patch can also be used on 2.2.12 and 2.2.13.
>
>Important These patches are no longer available from this location! I haven't
>          been able to find the new location for them, please email me if you
>          know where they've gone.                                           
>
>The patches for 2.2.14 and later kernels are at [http://people.redhat.com/
>mingo/raid-patches/] http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-patches/. Use the
>right patch for your kernel, these patches haven't worked on other kernel
>revisions. Please use something like wget/curl/lftp to retrieve this patch,
>as it's easier on the server than using a client like Netscape. Downloading
>patches with Lynx has been unsuccessful for me; wget may be the easiest way.
>
>1.2.4. How do I apply the patch to a kernel that I just downloaded from
>ftp.kernel.org?
>
>First, unpack the kernel into some directory, generally people use /usr/src/
>linux. Change to this directory, and type patch -p1 < /path/to/
>raid-version.patch.
>
>
>On my RedHat 6.2 system, I decompressed the 2.2.16 kernel into /usr/src/
>linux-2.2.16. From /usr/src/linux-2.2.16, I type in patch -p1 < /home/
>gleblanc/raid-2.2.16-A0. Then I rebuild the kernel using make menuconfig and
>related builds.
>
>1.2.5. What kind of drives can I use RAID with? Do only SCSI or IDE drives
>work? Do I need different patches for different kinds of drives?
>
>Software RAID works with any block device in the Linux kernel. This includes
>IDE and SCSI drives, as well as most harware RAID controllers. There are no
>different patches for IDE drives vs. SCSI drives.
>
>3. RAID tools
>
>1.3.1. What tools are available for dealing with my Linux Software RAID
>arrays?
>
>There are currently two sets of tools available. Both sets work quite well,
>and have essentially the same functionalty. I recommend the newer set of
>tools, because they're much easier to use, but I'll mention where to get the
>older tools as well.
>
>The new set of tools is called mdadm. It doesn't have much of a homepage, but
>you can download tarballs and RPMs from [http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~neilb/
>source/mdadm/] http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~neilb/source/mdadm/. I suggest
>that anyone who isn't already familar with the 'raidtools' package use these
>(and in fact, I suggest that folks who already know the raidtools package
>switch over to these).
>
>The older set of tools is called raidtools. They're available from [http://
>people.redhat.com/mingo/raidtools/] http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raidtools
>/. I believe there are other locations available, since Red Hat Linux is
>shipping based on a tarball numbered 1.00.3, which I can't find online. If
>anybody knows where these are, please let me know.
>
>4. Disk Failures and Recovery
>
>1.4.1. How can I tell if one of the disks in my RAID array has failed?
>
>A couple of things should indicate when a disk has failed. There should be
>quite a few messages in /var/log/messages indicating errors accessing that
>device, which should be a good indication that something is wrong.
>
>You should also notice that your /proc/mdstat looks different. Here's a snip
>from a good /proc/mdstat
>                                                                             
>                                                                             
>[gleblanc@grego1 gleblanc]$ cat /proc/mdstat                                 
>Personalities : [linear] [raid0] [raid1] [raid5] [translucent]               
>read_ahead not set                                                           
>md0 : active raid1 sdb5[0] sda5[1] 32000 blocks [2/2] [UU]                   
>unused devices: <none>                                                       
>                                                                             
>
>And here's one from a /proc/mdstat where one of the RAID sets has a missing
>disk.
>                                                                             
>                                                                             
>[gleblanc@grego1 gleblanc]$ cat /proc/mdstat                                 
>Personalities : [linear] [raid0] [raid1] [raid5] [translucent]               
>read_ahead not set                                                           
>md0 : active raid1 sdb5[0] sda5[1] 32000 blocks [2/1] [U_]                   
>unused devices: <none>                                                       
>                                                                             
>
>I don't know if /proc/mdstat will reflect the status of a HOT SPARE. If you
>have set one up, you should be watching /var/log/messages for any disk
>failures. I'd like to get some logs of a disk failure, and /proc/mdstat from
>a system with a hot spare.
>
>1.4.2. So my RAID set is missing a disk, what do I do now?
>
>Software-RAID generally doesn't mark a disk as bad unless it is, so you
>probably need a new disk. Most decent quality disks have a 3 year warranty,
>but some exceptional (and expensive) SCSI hard drives may have wararnties as
>long as 5 years, or even longer. More and more hard drive vendors are giving
>a 1 year warranty on their "consumer" drives. I suggest avoiding any drive
>with a 1 year warranty if at all possible. Try to have the manufacturer
>replace the failed disk if it's still under warranty.
>
>When you get the new disk, power down the system, and install it, then
>partition the drive so that it has partitions the size of your missing RAID
>partitions. Once you have the partitions set up properly, just run mdadm
>--add /dev/md0 /dev/hdc1, where /dev/md0 is the RAID array you're adding the
>partition to, and /dev/hdc1 is the partition that you're trying to add.
>Reconstruction should start immediately.
>
>If you would prefer to use the RAIDtools suite, you can use the command 
>raidhotadd to put the new disk into the array and begin reconstruction. See 
>Chapter 6 of the Software RAID HOWTO for more information.
>
>1.4.3. dmesg shows "md: serializing resync, md4 has overlapping physical
>units with md5" (where md4 and md5 are two of your software RAID devices).
>What does this mean?
>
>In that message "physical units" refers to disks, and not to blocks on the
>disks. Since there is more than one RAID array that needs resyncing on one of
>the disks in use for your RAID arrays, the RAID code is going to sync md4
>first, and md5 second, to avoid excessive seeks (also called thrashing),
>which would drastically slow the resync process.
>
>5. Benchmarking
>
>1.5.1. How should I benchmark my RAID devices? Are there any tools that work
>particularly well?
>
>There are really a few options for benchmarking your RAID array, depending on
>what you're looking to test. RAID offers the greatest speed increases when
>there are multiple threads reading from the same RAID volume.
>
>One tool specificly designed to test and show off these performance gains is 
>tiobench. It uses multiple read and write threads on the disk, and has some
>pretty good reporting.
>
>Another good tool to use is bonnie++. It seems to be more targeted at
>benchmarking single drives that at RAID, but still provides useful
>information.
>
>One tool NOT to use is hdparm. It does not give useful performance numbers
>for any drives that I've heard about, and has been known to give some
>incredibly off-the-wall numbers as well. If you want to do real benchmarking,
>use one of the tools listed above.
>  
>


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