Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030540AbcCQMOz (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Mar 2016 08:14:55 -0400 Received: from [198.137.202.9] ([198.137.202.9]:51010 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030423AbcCQMOx (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Mar 2016 08:14:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:13:33 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Thomas Gleixner , Nicholas Mc Guire , Joel Fernandes , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , kernelnewbies , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: RFC on fixing mutex spinning on owner Message-ID: <20160317121333.GU6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20160316233530.GA8731@kroah.com> <20160316221751.71816309@grimm.local.home> <20160317073605.GM6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160317080526.GB6679@osadl.at> <20160317101823.GQ6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160317080629.1af8f733@grimm.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160317080629.1af8f733@grimm.local.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1074 Lines: 24 On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 08:06:29AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:16:11 +0100 (CET) > Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > Also, maybe the tracer should measure the time from need_resched() > > > getting true until the next preemption point, instead of the entire time > > > preemption was disabled. Which would avoid the entire issue altogether. > > > > Well, that only gives you the information on a actual preemption, but not > > information about long preempt disabled regions which can cause a problem > > eventually. > > > > Actually, I was thinking the reverse. If need_resched() is called and > is false, then do a reset of the preemption time. But if need_resched() > is true, then do nothing, as that would measure the total time preempt > disable was set and a task could not schedule. > > Question is, should this be a hook and each location audited, or add > this to need_resched() itself? Is anybody calling need_resched() and then not doing anything with the value?