Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:09:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:09:33 -0500 Received: from inti.inf.utfsm.cl ([200.1.21.155]:30897 "EHLO inti.inf.utfsm.cl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:08:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200303151431.h2FEVwhh002809@eeyore.valparaiso.cl> To: Ed Vance Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:21:49 PST." <11E89240C407D311958800A0C9ACF7D1A33DDD@EXCHANGE> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:31:58 -0400 From: Horst von Brand Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1699 Lines: 35 Ed Vance said: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 5:32 PM, Horst von Brand wrote: > > Werner Almesberger said: > > > > [...] > > > > > Real time is still useful, if only as a hint to users. > > > > Lots of things would be useful to have, but you just can't get them. > > There is no guarantee that the clocks of the machines are > > even remotely > > near synchronized (don't get me started on that). > You mean like my legacy SPARCstation 1+ that runs in 1997 (days of week > match) so my "lifetime" licenses for apps from long ago dead companies don't > "expire" anyway, due to a Y2K bug in the license handler? I've seen reports of ridiculous bugs in Win98 that make it crash if you try to set our timezone (Chile/Continental), so they run it on UTC and fix up the time for summer/winter, if they even care about the right date (many people just don't bother setting up the clock of their systems). A large site around here had a hard time analyzing a breakin because their server systems were all running on wildly inaccurate clocks, so that correlating logs was a huge pain. For laughs, just check the origin date of the email you get. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/