Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:44:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:44:23 -0500 Received: from hermes.mixx.net ([212.84.196.2]:9480 "HELO hermes.mixx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:44:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3A948ACB.7B55BEAE@innominate.de> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:43:07 +0100 From: Daniel Phillips Organization: innominate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test10 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [rfc] Near-constant time directory index for Ext2 In-Reply-To: <200102220203.f1M237Z20870@webber.adilger.net> <3A947C54.E4750E74@transmeta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "H. Peter Anvin" wrote: > > Andreas Dilger wrote: > > > > Basically (IMHO) we will not really get any noticable benefit with 1 level > > index blocks for a 1k filesystem - my estimates at least are that the break > > even point is about 5k files. We _should_ be OK with 780k files in a single > > directory for a while. > > > > I've had a news server with 2000000 files in one directory. Such a > filesystem is likely to use small blocks, too, because each file is > generally small. > > This is an important connection: filesystems which have lots and lots of > small files will have large directories and small block sizes. I mentioned this earlier but it's worth repeating: the desire to use a small block size is purely an artifact of the fact that ext2 has no handling for tail block fragmentation. That's a temporary situation - once we've dealt with it your 2,000,000 file directory will be happier with 4K filesystem blocks. There will be a lot fewer metadata index blocks in your directory file, for one thing. Another practical matter is that 4K filesystem blocks map directly to 4K PAGE_SIZE and are as a result friendlier to the page cache and memory manager. -- Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/