Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:00:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:00:25 -0500 Received: from c90610-a.alton1.il.home.com ([24.11.42.157]:22035 "EHLO www.linuxnet") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:00:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:59:47 -0600 (CST) From: matthew To: Jonathan George cc: "'Rik van Riel'" , "'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" Subject: RE: 2.4.0-test10 Sluggish After Load In-Reply-To: <790BC7A85246D41195770000D11C56F21C847C@trc-tpaexc01.trcinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>Rik van Riel said: >> The problem may well be that Oracle wants to clean up >> all memory at once, accessing much more memory than >> it did while under stress with more tricky access >> patterns. >> >> If this looks bad to you, compare the points where 2.2 >> starts thrashing and where 2.4 starts thrashing. You'll >> most likely (there must be a few corner cases where 2.2 >> does better ;)) see that 2.4 still runs fine where 2.2 >> performance has already "degraded heavily" and that 2.2 >> has "hit the wall" before 2.4 does so ... the difference >> just is that 2.4 hits the wall more suddenly ;) >> >Jonathan George said: > It sounded to me as if his machine never actually recovered from thrashing. > Futhermore, even a thrashing case on a machine like that shouldn't last for > more than about 10 minutes. It would be interesting to contrast FreeBSD's > behavior if "simple" cleanup was the problem. BTW, I think that everyone is > happy with the direction of the new VM. I'm looking forward to your > upcoming enhancements which I hope will make it in to a later 2.4 release. The "thrashing" has been going on for roughly 10 hours now. Is there a point at which I can expect it to stop? The load average is at 441 (down from > 700 last night), and the stress program was killed at 1:00AM CST last night. This (obviously) isn't an important machine so if you want me to ride it out I will. Matthew - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/