Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756216AbcDNSFs (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:05:48 -0400 Received: from quartz.orcorp.ca ([184.70.90.242]:60676 "EHLO quartz.orcorp.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752410AbcDNSFq (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:05:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:05:40 -0600 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Ira Weiny Cc: Dennis Dalessandro , dledford@redhat.com, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access Message-ID: <20160414180540.GA12554@obsidianresearch.com> References: <20160414153727.6387.96381.stgit@scvm10.sc.intel.com> <20160414164550.GC6247@obsidianresearch.com> <20160414174830.GA11641@rhel.sc.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160414174830.GA11641@rhel.sc.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: no host name found for IP address 10.0.0.160 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1356 Lines: 29 On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 01:48:31PM -0400, Ira Weiny wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:45:50AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 08:41:35AM -0700, Dennis Dalessandro wrote: > > > This patch series removes the write() interface for user access in favor of an > > > ioctl() based approach. This is in response to the complaint that we had > > > different handlers for write() and writev() doing different things and expecting > > > different types of data. See: > > > > I think we should wait on applying these patches until we globally sort out > > what to do with the rdma uapi. > > > > It just doesn't make alot of sense for drivers to have their own personal > > char devices. :( > > I'm afraid I have to disagree at this time. Someday we may have "1 char device > to rule them all" but right now we don't have any line of sight to that > solution. It may be _years_ before we can agree to the semantics which will > work for all high speed, kernel bypass, rdma, low latency, network devices. There are some pretty obvious paths to make this saner that could only be a few weeks away, we haven't even had the first conversations yet. I think you are completely wrong there is no 'line of sight' It certainly can't be years. There is some rational for a very driver specific thing, but EEPROM and snoop? Seriously? Jason