Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:34:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:34:46 -0500 Received: from franka.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.44]:53186 "EHLO franka.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:34:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:45:38 -0800 From: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Jeff Garzik cc: James Bourne , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Robert Love , Martin Mares , Alan Cox , Stephan von Krawczynski , szepe@pinerecords.com, arjanv@redhat.com, Pavel Machek Subject: Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25 Message-ID: <6850000.1048463137@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: <3E7E4486.8080302@pobox.com> References: <20030323193457.GA14750@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <200303231938.h2NJcAq14927@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20030323194423.GC14750@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <1048448838.1486.12.camel@phantasy.awol.org> <20030323195606.GA15904@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <1048450211.1486.19.camel@phantasy.awol.org> <402760000.1048451441@[10.10.2.4]> <20030323203628.GA16025@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <920000.1048456387@[10.10.2.4]> <3E7E335C.2050509@pobox.com> <1240000.1048460079@[10.10.2.4]> <3E7E4486.8080302@pobox.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1091 Lines: 27 >> O(1) sched may be a bad example ... how about the fact that mainline VM >> is totally unstable? Witness, for instance, the buffer_head stuff. Fixes >> for that have been around for ages. > > "totally unstable" being defined as: My computers don't crash, and my > 100%-mainline test kernels pass various Cerberus/LTP/crashme runs. > > Of course, I am not totally focused on multi-million-dollar computers, so > maybe my perspective is skewed... ;-) Last time I checked, a 2x machine with 4Gb of RAM didn't cost millions of dollars ;-) > Fixes should be applied to 2.4-mainline, certainly. Anything else just > wastes developer brain cycles and slows the move to 2.6. Common vendor _features_ is maybe better done in a separate tree, I'd accept ... I'm just frustrated with the current lack of commonality between distros, I guess. M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/