Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752678AbcDZUsI (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:48:08 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.220.43]:33530 "EHLO mail-pa0-f43.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751848AbcDZUsG (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:48:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [RFC v2 5/8] drm/fence: add in-fences support To: =?UTF-8?B?VmlsbGUgU3lyasOkbMOk?= , Gustavo Padovan , Gustavo Padovan , Daniel Stone , Riley Andrews , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Arve_Hj=c3=b8nnev=c3=a5g?= , John Harrison References: <1461623608-29538-1-git-send-email-gustavo@padovan.org> <1461623608-29538-6-git-send-email-gustavo@padovan.org> <20160426101050.GN4329@intel.com> <20160426141422.GG7857@joana> <20160426143635.GW8291@phenom.ffwll.local> <20160426162621.GU4329@intel.com> <20160426172049.GB2558@phenom.ffwll.local> <20160426174045.GC4329@intel.com> <20160426182346.GC2558@phenom.ffwll.local> <20160426185506.GH4329@intel.com> <20160426200505.GD2558@phenom.ffwll.local> From: Greg Hackmann Message-ID: <571FD402.6050407@google.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:48:02 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160426200505.GD2558@phenom.ffwll.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1584 Lines: 33 On 04/26/2016 01:05 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 09:55:06PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 08:23:46PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 08:40:45PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote: >>> But really the reason for per-plane is hw composer from >>> Android. I don't see any point in designing an api that's needlessly >>> different from what the main user expects (even if it may be silly). >> >> What are they doing that can't stuff the fences into an array >> instead of props? > > The hw composer interface is one in-fence per plane. That's really the > major reason why the kernel interface is built to match. And I really > don't think we should diverge just because we have a slight different > color preference ;-) > > As long as you end up with a pile of fences somehow it'll work. > -Daniel > The relationship between layers and fences is only fuzzy and indirect though. The relationship is really between the buffer you're displaying on that layer, and the fence representing the work done to render into that buffer. SurfaceFlinger just happens to bundle them together inside the same struct hwc_layer_1 as an API convenience. Which is kind of splitting hairs as long as you have a 1-to-1 relationship between layers and DRM planes. But that's not always the case. A (per-CRTC?) array of fences would be more flexible. And even in the cases where you could make a 1-to-1 mapping between planes and fences, it's not that much more work for userspace to assemble those fences into an array anyway.