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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:48:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
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Subject: Re: [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.66
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > 
> > Another "bk-only" patch. Guess I'd better look at the free (as in license,
> > not cost) clone again.
> 
> Well, since BK has made it so trivial for me to merge with Greg, the thing 
> is already integrated into my tree, and as a result the patches should 
> already have been sent out on the patch lists by the robots, and the 
> snapshots will follow shortly as the automation decides to kick in.
> 
> In short, give BK the credit it deserves. You get all the information you
> want, and the fact that you depend on and force yourself to use inferior
> tools is not the fault of BK.
> 
> In other words: _despite_ your luddite ways you actually have more
> information available to you than you would have had without BK.
> 
> So stop whining about BK. Put up or shut up - you get timely non-BK 
> snapshots, and the fact that others see the value of their tools in the 
> things they do for them shouldn't be an issue for _you_.

The issue is not *value* it's *price*.

> Stay in the stone age if you wish, but don't expect your stone-age 
> muscle-propellered log car to go as fast as the rocket of the future. And 
> don't complain to us who don't want to expend energy on stuff that 
> shouldn't need it. We've got better tools.

We have no funky licenses here. If it's free we use it, if we buy it we
use it. Anything which has a license which is free for one thing and not
another just isn't used. It's too easy for someone to use the software in
violation and we're not comfortable risking that. Price of painful
honesty and legal paranoia.

If you think I wouldn't use bk other than the license, I bet you think I
don't drive a Bentley because I don't notice it's nicer than my old Ford.
This isn't a technical issue.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

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