Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757979AbcJ1Jfw (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Oct 2016 05:35:52 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:35021 "EHLO mail-wm0-f49.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756255AbcJ1Jfv (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Oct 2016 05:35:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:35:47 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Vegard Nossum Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Pavel Machek , Kees Cook , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , kernel list , Ingo Molnar , Alexander Shishkin , "kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" Subject: Re: rowhammer protection [was Re: Getting interrupt every million cache misses] Message-ID: <20161028093547.GA9291@gmail.com> References: <20161026204748.GA11177@amd> <20161027082801.GE3568@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20161027091104.GB19469@amd> <20161027093334.GK3102@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20161027212747.GA18147@amd> <20161028070701.GA11376@gmail.com> <20161028085039.GA15032@amd> <20161028090423.GY3102@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 809 Lines: 21 * Vegard Nossum wrote: > Would it make sense to sample the counter on context switch, do some > accounting on a per-task cache miss counter, and slow down just the > single task(s) with a too high cache miss rate? That way there's no > global slowdown (which I assume would be the case here). The task's > slice of CPU would have to be taken into account because otherwise you > could have multiple cooperating tasks that each escape the limit but > taken together go above it. Attackers could work this around by splitting the rowhammer workload between multiple threads/processes. I.e. the problem is that the risk may come from any 'unprivileged user-space code', where the rowhammer workload might be spread over multiple threads, processes or even users. Thanks, Ingo