Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751167AbcKAPws (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:52:48 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:55274 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750720AbcKAPwq (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:52:46 -0400 Subject: Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ? To: Boris Barbulovski References: <3077d5cb-9a8a-5d3e-cd00-ce3ad5cb3406@infradead.org> <5d04ac9f-8cf5-3f1a-4943-16dbfd24f0fc@infradead.org> Cc: Jason Vas Dias , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild , Thiago Macieira , Michal Marek From: Randy Dunlap Message-ID: <7d814ee3-3ee0-df39-0066-ea61df59939c@infradead.org> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 08:52:39 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3475 Lines: 88 On 11/01/16 05:17, Boris Barbulovski wrote: > hi Randy, > > Frankly I don't have answer to your questions, but I did reproduced > the issues you described. > > And found that: > > * `Show Debug Info` menu item was(created, but) not added to the menu. > * if the `showDebug` setting was set to true, the the initial widgets > state will not be set correctly. > > I did a patch of those issues fixed. > > If you choose to keep the `showDebug` stuff in, you can checkout/test the patch. Your patch works ... but I don't find the Show Debug Info option to be useful, so I would just remove it completely. anyone else have views on this? thanks. > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Randy Dunlap wrote: >> On 10/17/16 10:28, Randy Dunlap wrote: >>> Boris or Thiago, >>> >>> Any comments, suggestions, or patches about this? >>> >>> thanks. >> >> Hi Boris and Thiago, >> >> Other than you patch of Oct. 17 (which needs to be added to linux-kconfig for >> linux-next testing), the OP (Jason) mentioned that the xconfig "Help, Introduction" >> mentions a toggle called "Show Debug Info" but there is no such option under >> the Option menu. >> >> The qconf.cc source file does contain a boolean called _showDebug. How is it >> used? It appears to only be settable by editing the .config/kernel.org/qconf.conf >> file: >> qconf\help\showDebug=false >> and changing that 'false' to 'true'. Doing that still does not show any debug options >> in the xconfig windows. What it appears to do is to highlight (via html) the kconfig >> keywords so that the user can click on them, but when I do that, nothing useful >> happens (they just disappear!). >> >> So the questions are basically: >> >> 1. should be Help/Introduction text be cleaned up so that it does not refer to >> Show Debug Options? or should that toggle be reinstated? >> >> 2. how is /showDebug used? should it be documented? should it be fixed? >> should it be deleted? >> >> Thanks. >> >>> On 10/15/16 04:09, Jason Vas Dias wrote: >>>> Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told - >>>> there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists >>>> at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window >>>> notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to >>>> do these days to view more info ? >>>> >>>> I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig / >>>> using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable). >>>> >>>> Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select >>>> View -> Option Documentation or press over an option to view the >>>> documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was >>>> correct at >>>> startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand >>>> side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the >>>> documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged. >>>> >>>> Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says : >>>> "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the >>>> dependencies..." >>>> but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like >>>> it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ? >>>> why don't I see one ? Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put >>>> an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ? >>>> >>>> Thanks anyway for the info. -- ~Randy