Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262520AbTEGBFq (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 May 2003 21:05:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262621AbTEGBFq (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 May 2003 21:05:46 -0400 Received: from h24-70-162-27.wp.shawcable.net ([24.70.162.27]:30692 "EHLO ubb.apia.dhs.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262520AbTEGBFp (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 May 2003 21:05:45 -0400 From: "Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler" To: Jamie Lokier , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Using GPL'd Linux drivers with non-GPL, binary-only kernel References: <20030506165014$3d57@gated-at.bofh.it> <20030506193019$0d29@gated-at.bofh.it> <20030506220018$5b96@gated-at.bofh.it> Organization: Judean People's Front; Department of Whips, Chains, Thumb-Screws, Six Tons of Whipping Cream, the Entire Soprano Section of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Guest Apperances of Eva Peron aka Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories X-Disclaimer-1: This message has been edited from it's original form by members of the Eric Conspiracy. X-Disclaimer-2: There is no Eric Conspiracy. User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1918 Lines: 45 In article <20030506220018$5b96@gated-at.bofh.it>, Jamie Lokier wrote: : I do not see any practical alternative way to create a new kind of : operating system kernel that is compatible with the wide range of PC : hardware, other than: : : (a) read lots of open source code and then write drivers, : filesystems etc. from what is learned, or : (b) just use the available code with appropriate wrapping. : : Both are lots of work. But isn't (b) going to be less work? I'm not : sure. If your interest is in creating a new and unique OS, you'll likely find that it becomes a great deal of work to try to glue the linux drivers into it. I would imagine in the majority of cases you'd either have to change the driver code considerably to fit the subtleties of , or change the code considerably to fit the subtleties of linux. When creating a new system, the last thing you want to have to do is carry around a bunch of extra baggage that you really don't need. Anyways, this is 2003, aren't operating systems supposed to be boring by now? And where's my flying car damnit. ;) To answer your question more directly, I think most developers would agree that the spirit of the GPL is "give as you take". If just releasing back the source to the modified drivers - completely useless without your new closed kernel - doesn't feel a whole lot like "giving", then you're probably not doing enough to keep people happy. Cheers - Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler :) -- Tony "Nicoya" Mantler - Renaissance Nerd Extraordinaire - nicoya@apia.dhs.org Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada -- http://nicoya.feline.pp.se/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/