Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262961AbTEGGln (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 02:41:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262963AbTEGGln (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 02:41:43 -0400 Received: from pc1-cmbg4-4-cust110.cmbg.cable.ntl.com ([81.96.70.110]:54276 "EHLO thekelleys.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262961AbTEGGlm (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 02:41:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3EB8AD41.5010605@thekelleys.org.uk> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 07:52:49 +0100 From: Simon Kelley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030327 Debian/1.3-4 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: Simon Kelley , "J. Bruce Fields" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , torvalds@transmeta.com Subject: Re: Binary firmware in the kernel - licensing issues. References: <3EB79ECE.4010709@thekelleys.org.uk> <20030506121954.GO24892@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <20030506151644.GA19898@fieldses.org> <3EB7D7D9.2050603@thekelleys.org.uk> <1052234481.1202.20.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <1052234481.1202.20.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1270 Lines: 36 Alan Cox wrote: > On Maw, 2003-05-06 at 16:42, Simon Kelley wrote: > >>Then, as you say, I need to know if the kernel developers have given >>permission to distribute a work which combines Atmel's blob with >>their source.[1] > > > Either the GPL does or it doesn't. > Na.. firmware stuff needs sorting out, but from the conversations I've > seem so far that involved people with a knowledge of law thats by > putting the firmware out of the kernel entirely > Either the GPL allows this or it doesn't or maybe it is just not clear. If it is in fact silent or ambiguous on the issue then Linus is a much more useful resource than Lawyers. If he pronounces firmware blobs OK and doesn't get sued by a significant number of the other copyright holders then the decision is set. Similary it's unlikely that anyone else would risk it if Linus says it is not OK. Same procedure as that which caused Linus's "Binary-only modules can link to the kernel without voilating the GPL" pronouncement. Linus? Cheers, Simon - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/