Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263212AbTEGOTQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 10:19:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263219AbTEGOTQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 10:19:16 -0400 Received: from mail.jlokier.co.uk ([81.29.64.88]:16256 "EHLO mail.jlokier.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263212AbTEGOTO (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 10:19:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 15:31:48 +0100 From: Jamie Lokier To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Using GPL'd Linux drivers with non-GPL, binary-only kernel Message-ID: <20030507143148.GB16023@mail.jlokier.co.uk> References: <20030506164252.GA5125@mail.jlokier.co.uk> <20030506215552.GA6284@mail.jlokier.co.uk> <200305071425.h47EPYxg013048@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305071425.h47EPYxg013048@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1428 Lines: 32 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Wed, 07 May 2003 02:21:25 MDT, Eric W. Biederman said: > > > Beyond that the whole closed thing is a turn-off. Which is likely to > > reduce interest in your research OS and get you no free feedback on > > the weird situations. > > The target kernel doesn't actually *have* to be closed. What if the > kernel running the Linux driver was some open-but-incompatible licence? Regarding Eric's point, I think it comes down to what captures the imagination of potential users. Even a GPL'd project is not likely to get much interest if it doesn't offer anything worth using. Conversely, see BeOS for something which was not ultimately a commercial success, but which captured the imagination of a lot of people despite being closed source. > I'll just pause to point out that the single most successful TCP stack > has to be the BSD one - which started off as DARPA-funded research, and got > lots of feedback in spite of its license. I disagree. Many of the most successful TCP stacks _forked_ from the BSD one at some time or other (e.g. SunOS, Microsoft), but then they evolved in their own directions, with their unique quirks. -- Jamie - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/