Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263277AbTEGOcW (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 10:32:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263385AbTEGOcW (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 10:32:22 -0400 Received: from mail.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.8]:42002 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263277AbTEGOcU (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 10:32:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 16:44:34 +0200 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: hps@intermeta.de Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Message-Id: <20030507164434.6b891b14.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20030428115740.3a6c2a97.skraw@ithnet.com> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1526 Lines: 36 On Tue, 6 May 2003 15:58:02 +0000 (UTC) "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" wrote: > Stephan von Krawczynski writes: > > >copy-protected I cannot do that _legally_, because breaking the protection > >is against DMCA. Now you just created the case where _buying_ something does > >not > > You live in which country? So why do you care about archaic law in > foreign countries? The DMCA doesn't apply (yet) to the E.U. This is not completely true. You can be imprisoned (and "handed over") even as E.U. citizen to US for violation of US laws. E.U. signed a respective agreement. As far as I know no case was filed up to now, but that does not mean it weren't possible. It was obviously a complete brain-damage of the officials to pass something like that, it looked a lot like the ongoing case of giving away all E.U. customer flight data to the US, not only those flighing to the US. And additionally look at the currently ongoing discussion about the second part of the new german Urheberrecht which is said to come somewhen this autumn. There is a clear statement that private copies are illegal after that passed parliament. > Copying a CD for private use is perfectly legal here in Germany. Just wait 6 month and see... -- Regards, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/