Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753173AbcLHLTD (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Dec 2016 06:19:03 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f194.google.com ([209.85.223.194]:32833 "EHLO mail-io0-f194.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751697AbcLHLTB (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Dec 2016 06:19:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <91b0d10c-1bc2-c3e1-4088-f4ad9adcd6c0@free.fr> References: <58356EA8.2010806@free.fr> <20161125045549.GC2698@localhost> <092f44ee-4560-be17-25f7-00948dba3cfa@free.fr> <20fc9020-7278-bc2f-2a8d-43aff5cabff8@free.fr> <20161206051222.GQ6408@localhost> <5846B237.8060409@free.fr> <20161207164341.GX6408@localhost> <20161208103921.GC6408@localhost> <91b0d10c-1bc2-c3e1-4088-f4ad9adcd6c0@free.fr> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:18:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cVpM1g8RUaZcI8AbyojWoiMGwDk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tearing down DMA transfer setup after DMA client has finished To: Mason Cc: Vinod Koul , Mans Rullgard , Russell King , dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, Linus Walleij , Dan Williams , LKML , Linux ARM , Jon Mason , Mark Brown , Lars-Peter Clausen , Lee Jones , Laurent Pinchart , Arnd Bergmann , Maxime Ripard , Dave Jiang , Peter Ujfalusi , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , Sebastian Frias , Thibaud Cornic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail.home.local id uB8BJ9FJ004173 Content-Length: 2088 Lines: 54 On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Mason wrote: > On 08/12/2016 11:39, Vinod Koul wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 04:45:58PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote: >>> Vinod Koul writes: >>>> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 01:14:20PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote: >>>>> That's not going to work very well. Device drivers typically request >>>>> dma channels in their probe functions or when the device is opened. >>>>> This means that reserving one of the few channels there will inevitably >>>>> make some other device fail to operate. >>>> >>>> No that doesn't make sense at all, you should get a channel only when you >>>> want to use it and not in probe! >>> >>> Tell that to just about every single driver ever written. >> >> Not really, few do yes which is wrong but not _all_ do that. > > Vinod, > > Could you explain something to me in layman's terms? > > I have a NAND Flash Controller driver that depends on the > DMA driver under discussion. > > Suppose I move the dma_request_chan() call from the driver's > probe function, to the actual DMA transfer function. > > I would want dma_request_chan() to put the calling thread > to sleep until a channel becomes available (possibly with > a timeout value). > > But Maxime told me dma_request_chan() will just return > -EBUSY if no channels are available. > > Am I supposed to busy wait in my driver's DMA function > until a channel becomes available? Can you fall back to PIO if requesting a channel fails? Alternatively, dma_request_chan() could always succeed, and dmaengine_prep_slave_sg() could fail if the channel is currently not available due to a limitation on the number of active channels, and the driver could fall back to PIO for that transfer. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds