Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262253AbTENOWT (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2003 10:22:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262268AbTENOWT (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2003 10:22:19 -0400 Received: from chaos.analogic.com ([204.178.40.224]:13697 "EHLO chaos.analogic.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262253AbTENOWQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2003 10:22:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:36:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard B. Johnson" X-X-Sender: root@chaos Reply-To: root@chaos.analogic.com To: Dean McEwan cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Digital Rights Management - An idea (limited lease, renting, expiration, verification) NON HARWARE BASED. In-Reply-To: <20030514135256.26073.qmail@linuxmail.org> Message-ID: References: <20030514135256.26073.qmail@linuxmail.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2206 Lines: 59 On Wed, 14 May 2003, Dean McEwan wrote: > Alan Cox said : > > You can set this up with both rsbac and selinux > > > Im thinking of much more... [SNIPPED...] > > E.G. a kernel could refuse to work after one year forcing its users > to upgrade their kernel, preventing exploits being left in place, > and creators of the prefab kernels in > a sticky liable mess. The worst problem with expiring software is that a company, operating in good faith, can be forced out of business because if it. Lets say that I have a company called BestInTheWorld. Because I make the best data-base software in the world, a lot of companies purchase a license to use this software. The software expires in a year. This is no problem because The software renewal is cheap. Soon every company in Silicon Valley uses my software. The company is going strong and needs to expand. It issues public stock. Al Qaeda purchases controlling interest in the company and closes it. In one year, everybody in Silicon Valley is out of work because all the company's software stopped working. Bad joke? Hell no. Digital thought about short-term leasing of their software when they introduced LMF, the license management facility. Once Digtal's lawyers got involved, a patch was sent to everbody making damn sure that the "expiration" capability was removed. Nevertheless, FTP Software, that made TCP/IP to DECNET sofware, continued to have software that expired. Basically, in many states in the USA, you can't sell or lease something that will become worthless or unusable if the seller or leasor no longer exists. If the renter makes a good-faith effort to pay the rent, the renter continues to enjoy use of the leased property. Creating property that doesn't allow this violates common law. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/