Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933100AbcLMMFQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2016 07:05:16 -0500 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:4842 "EHLO mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932455AbcLMMFP (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2016 07:05:15 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.33,341,1477954800"; d="scan'208";a="249760361" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:05:12 +0100 (CET) From: Julia Lawall X-X-Sender: jll@hadrien To: Nicholas Mc Guire cc: Jani Nikula , Nicholas Mc Guire , Thomas Gleixner , Jonathan Corbet , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Dan Carpenter , Julia Lawall Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: add note on usleep_range range In-Reply-To: <20161213091912.GA6347@osadl.at> Message-ID: References: <1481601523-14004-1-git-send-email-hofrat@osadl.org> <87r35ctcrp.fsf@intel.com> <20161213091912.GA6347@osadl.at> User-Agent: Alpine 2.10 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1921 Lines: 52 On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Nicholas Mc Guire wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Nicholas Mc Guire wrote: > > > useleep_range() with a delta of 0 makes no sense and only prevents the > > > timer subsystem from optimizing interrupts. As any user of usleep_range() > > > is in non-atomic context the timer jitter is in the range of 10s of > > > microseconds anyway. > > > > > > This adds a note making it clear that a range of 0 is a bad idea. > > > > So I don't really have anything to do with the timer subsystem, I'm just > > their "consumer", so take this with a grain of salt. > > > > Documentation is good, but I don't think this will be enough. > > > > I think the only thing that will work is to detect and complain about > > things like this automatically. Some ideas: > > > > * WARN_ON(min == max) or WARN_ON_ONCE(min == max) in usleep_range() > > might be drastic, but it would get the job done eventually. > > > > * If you want to avoid the runtime overhead (and complaints about the > > backtraces), you could wrap usleep_range() in a macro that does > > BUILD_BUG_ON(min == max) if the parameters are build time constants > > (they usually are). But you'd have to fix all the problem cases first. > > > > * You could try (to persuade Julia or Dan) to come up with a > > cocci/smatch check for usleep_range() calls where min == max, so we > > could get bug reports for this. This probably works on expressions, so > > this would catch also cases where the parameters aren't built time > > constants. > > > > I fully agree - without automation it is almost usless > the coccinelle spatch is a seperate patch and it is tested butnot yet > submitted. > > the spatch for this iss actually trivial > > @nulldelta@ > constant C; > position p; > @@ > > * usleep_range@p(C,C) People never use more complex expressions? julia