Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263361AbTESXSD (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2003 19:18:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263364AbTESXSC (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2003 19:18:02 -0400 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:57099 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263361AbTESXSB (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2003 19:18:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3EC9691A.6000506@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:30:34 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Organization: Zytor Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en, sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: "Eric W. Biederman" , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc References: <20030519165623.GA983@mars.ravnborg.org> <3EC95B58.7080807@zytor.com> <1053382815.29227.29.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <1053382815.29227.29.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 890 Lines: 24 Alan Cox wrote: > On Llu, 2003-05-19 at 23:31, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > >>What I find truly puzzling is that obviously intelligent people like >>yourself still seem to think that ABIs remain fixed. > > Because with a few deep system stuff exceptions they do, although they > certainly extend. Rogue for 0.98.5 still runs on 2.4.21 (although you > may have fun finding libc2.2.2) That's my point, though: the ABI *as a whole* does not remain fixed, even though it evolves according to rules, one of which is try to maintain backwards compatibility. The "copy-and-modify" mantra doesn't take that into account, nevermind the GPL issues. -hpa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/