Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262269AbTEUU3b (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 May 2003 16:29:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262273AbTEUU3b (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 May 2003 16:29:31 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.65.60]:8539 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S262269AbTEUU3a (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 May 2003 16:29:30 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030521221522.00cc0790@pop.gmx.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 22:46:15 +0200 To: davidm@hpl.hp.com From: Mike Galbraith Subject: Re: web page on O(1) scheduler Cc: davidm@hpl.hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@linuxia64.org In-Reply-To: <16075.48579.189593.405154@napali.hpl.hp.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030521111037.01ed0d58@pop.gmx.net> <16075.8557.309002.866895@napali.hpl.hp.com> <5.2.0.9.2.20030521111037.01ed0d58@pop.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1859 Lines: 38 At 10:56 AM 5/21/2003 -0700, David Mosberger wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2003 11:26:31 +0200, Mike Galbraith > said: > > Mike> The page mentions persistent starvation. My own explorations > Mike> of this issue indicate that the primary source is always > Mike> selecting the highest priority queue. > >My working assumption is that the problem is a bug with the dynamic >prioritization. The task receiving the signals calls sleep() after >handling a signal and hence it's dynamic priority should end up higher >than the priority of the task sending signals (since the sender never >relinquishes the CPU voluntarily). The only thing that matters is how much you sleep vs run, so yes, it should have a higher priority unless that handling is heavy on cpu. If it doesn't, then you have to have a different problem, because the dynamic priority portion of the scheduler is dead simple. The only way I can imagine that priority could end up lower than expected is heavyweight interrupt load, or spinning out of control. >However, I haven't actually had time to look at the relevant code, so >I may be missing something. If you understand the issue better, >please explain to me why this isn't a dynamic priority issue. I just saw your other post regarding the web page. Now that I know that there's a detailed description in there somewhere, I'll go read it and see if any of what I've gleaned from crawling around the scheduler code is useful. I thought you might be encountering the same kind of generic starvation I've seen. Ergo, the simple diag patch. -Mike - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/