Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262090AbTEXPnD (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2003 11:43:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262114AbTEXPnD (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2003 11:43:03 -0400 Received: from nat9.steeleye.com ([65.114.3.137]:63751 "EHLO hancock.sc.steeleye.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262090AbTEXPnC (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2003 11:43:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Aix7xxx unstable in 2.4.21-rc2? (RE: Linux 2.4.21-rc2) From: James Bottomley To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: Willy Tarreau , Linux Kernel , Marcelo Tosatti In-Reply-To: <156240000.1053787871@aslan.scsiguy.com> References: <1053732598.1951.13.camel@mulgrave> <20030524064340.GA1451@alpha.home.local> <1053786998.1793.31.camel@mulgrave> <156240000.1053787871@aslan.scsiguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-9) Date: 24 May 2003 11:55:54 -0400 Message-Id: <1053791756.1793.55.camel@mulgrave> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1655 Lines: 34 On Sat, 2003-05-24 at 10:51, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > Just for clarification. Marcelo never asked me for a fix. The only > mail I received from him was an informational message indicating that > the code was being backed out. If I had been provided an opportunity > to fix the problem, I would have. Considering that the fix has been > available long before RC2 was cut (May 1st.), it's not hard to see that > getting a proper fix required nothing more than just upgrading the driver > or contacting its maintainer to get a paired down fix. The kernel, as you have been told several times before, follows a push model, not a pull one. Just looking after SCSI, I don't have time to go around asking all the driver writers for updates; likewise Marcelo really doesn't have the time to do this for everything in the 2.4 kernel. Every maintained piece of the kernel has a listed maintainer to whom the bug reports are supposed to go. The expectation is that these maintainers will see the bug reports and pro-actively provide fixes before they become release issues. The maintainers also do enhancements, *but* these enhancements should follow the proper release cycle (i.e. in at the early -pre stage). Could you please get with the program? The bug fix vs enhancement issue hasn't previously mattered that much for 2.5, but I anticipate we'll be following a similar model when 2.6 is released. James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/